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[–] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

I have an EV and I pay for traffic and the iphone app, but both of those require cell service and remote servers that need upkeep.

Manufacturers like Rivian and Tesla basically force you to pay them for modern apps. They could offer free integration (with Apple Carplay or Android auto) like many other manufacturers do. Why should we have to pay them for stuff we already have on our phones? It's a blatant money grab.

CarPlay/AndroidAuto is one of the reasons I went with a Ford EV.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (3 children)

    Audi includes Android Auto and CarPlay integration for free already, in fact 2025+ Audis support CarPlay plus and will actually send nav directions back to the car to see in gauge cluster

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    Yes that's why I singled out Rivian and Tesla. I bought a Ford for Carplay.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago*

    My Tesla has full functionality whether I subscribe to anything or not. Subscribing gets me cell service so it can update as we go, and is similar in price to cell service for other gadgets

    With cell service

    • maps have live traffic
    • I can listen to streaming music

    Without cell service

    • maps can’t update live traffic data
    • I can listen to streaming music on my driveway, but otherwise use Bluetooth to stream from my phone

    Ok, fine, full self driving is now a subscription

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