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Go back 10-15 years (and ignore everything we've learned about Elon Musk.) Tesla's were objectively cool.
But now they're high priced, and software locked, track everything you do and everywhere you go, will trap you inside if caught on fire, require costly body work if in a fender bender which also takes forever, have replaced buttons with screens and door handles with software, and depreciate like a lead balloon.
No, dumbass, we're not against EVs, we're against your version of EVs. If Honda ever puts out an Accord EV with Android Auto / Car Play (and priced appropriately), the EV wars are over. That's all we want.
meanwhile honda has retreated on EVs... .AGAIN....
I so want to convert my old honda element into a 40-60m range EV. it's so damned compact and handy.
I don't understand why they can't just make electric versions of their most popular cars. I'm not saying take the chassis and literally just get rid of the engine and put motors on the wheels because that's where you get things at the Nissan leaf from. But they can start with their popular cars as a good jumping off point.
Personally I want an electric version of the Ford Estate, with fold down and removable back seats for when I need the extra storage capacity, two hook on the back, roof racks on the roof, and lots of buttons. I don't need self-driving unless it actually works and I don't anything clever doing with the door handles, It's a car that's going to be driving on the road at 60, it doesn't need to be particularly aerodynamic.
Saw a vid of a Mkll escort elec. Crazy cost.
If Honda ever puts out an Accord EV with Android Auto / Car Play (and priced appropriately), the EV wars are over. - so true. The tank of the EV. Toyota Camery would be the other option.
But yeh i agree. Just some basic models. A simple head unit, options for my own apps, and a music that I can plug a music drive into. no spying, no subscriptions.
I have questioning lately if i had to convert any car which model/year would it be? i think maybe 2012-2016 audi/vw/toyota - coupe or estate car for me. For their solid build, small level or luxury and comfort.