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[–] [email protected] 186 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 164 points 1 year ago

Elon: "100% free speech, always!"

MediaMatters: "Here's evidence Musk is an antisemite."

Elon: "I'm suing you for speaking freely!"

[–] [email protected] 162 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it really thermonuclear if it can easily be dismissed with a couple of screenshots? And he is trying to allege fraud. This is the flimsiest crybaby tantrum he has had yet.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Right? The media matters article screenshots clearly prove it’s allegations. Unless he tries the angle that they were photoshopped (and obviously he needs proof for it) this gets dismissed immediately.

Hoping it doesn’t cost media matters anything or that they can recoup any fees they may incur from this. Nice to have real reporting with proof to back it up like they showed.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe he meant thermonuclear in the sense that it is mutually assured destruction because, as most trigger happy lawsuit threats tend to forget, a lawsuit means discovery. So a lot more dirt about Xitter and Musk would have to become public record.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

It's not even mutually-assured, though. It's a kamikaze attack doomed to miss.

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[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This is a funny way to spell 'frivolous' when describing a lawsuit

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Musk throws thermonuclear tantrum

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This dumb fuck is about to be proven to be a bigot in a US court of law, isn't he? Discovery & the inevitable counter-suit is going to be 🍿🍿🍿🍿

Donate to Media Matters here.

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Above everything, including profit, X works to protect the public’s right to free speech. But for speech to be truly free, we must also have the freedom to see or hear things that some people may consider objectionable,” he added.

It’s important to note that one of Musk’s lawyers, not Musk himself, made this statement. That’s because lawyers are immune to levels of irony that would be lethal to an ordinary human.

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 year ago (1 children)

as he has clearly abandoned his handlers, his outward communication gets worse and worse. hes like a stroke victim that refuses assistance, and is declining.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Sounds like every maga republican. Strange they share the same ethos.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 year ago

"We must allow all free speech!"

"OK so I can choose to take my ads somewhere else"

"Wait no not like that"

[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago

Musk, the richest man in the world, said today that he will be 'holding his breath until everyone is nice to him'. The statement came as advertisers grew concerned about being associated with blatant antisemitism. A statement released by Apple claims that Musk is 'acting up for attention and needs a timeout and possibly a nap.' Musk responded with a post to X, formerly a semi-legitimate social media platform, that 'Apple is a big meanie who is in bed with the Jews. '

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

"Above everything, including profit, X works to protect the public’s right to free speech. But for speech to be truly free, we must also have the freedom to see or hear things that some people may consider objectionable,” he added.

Good to know you believe in free speech. Elmo. So you won't mind if companies exercise that right by choosing not to advertise on your racist, apartheid-loving network.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But for speech to be truly free, we must also have the freedom to see or hear things that some people may consider objectionable,” he added._

And the freedom to say "that's objectionable" and choose not to be associated with it.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Freedom of speech is connected to freedom of association, which also includes the freedom to not speak and to not associate (ie. halting advertising)

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Why do we keep giving this guy a platform? Do we really care that much about twitter and his stupid shenanigans

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Actually we need to keep publicizing his ridiculousness so those that worship him might finally realize he’s not some genius ™. I had a friend recently tell me that Musk was probably the smartest person on the planet right now. I had to explain - as gently as possible so as not to offend those who think others are the snowflakes - that Musk is the very definition of starting on third base and thinking you hit a triple. My buddy gets plenty of propaganda telling him how great Musk is, there needs to be plenty of balance.

NOTE: Before you tell me, yes, I know that brainwashed people don’t just change their mind, and it probably won’t make a difference. But we shouldn’t let these lines of thought go unchallenged.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We as in Lemmy users probably don't care about Twitter at all. But there are 100s of Millions of active Twitter users, so it's no surprise this is in the news.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If we as Lemmy users didn’t care, it wouldn’t be posted and upvoted.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Well, he owns and operates his own platform, where he's making it terribly easy for fascists to fasc. His space vehicles and communications satellites are being depended on by major world powers. He's got the largest electric vehicle charging infrastructure in the western hemisphere, if not the world.

Like it or not, his shenanigans affect us all.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

"Has our company ever made bad business decisions? Well, we once bought advertising from Twitter. Don't do that. In the calm, rational, well-weighed opinion of our company, Musk is a massive crybaby and dealing with him is such a fucking fucking headache." - overheard in a business seminar, 2024

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

“We’ll, well, well if it isn’t the consequences of my own actions “

Still don’t think anyone has put it better than Owen Jones .

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I’m sure all those big companies are really worried.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

supporting free speech by suing people for speech in the attempt to limit speech. I'm not saying media shouldn't be held accountable but in the age of PR bullshit do words mean things anymore?

Believing there are limits to free speech is not a crazy thing but just say what you mean. Media watchdog said things you don't like so you're suing them.

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