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[-] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 99 points 5 days ago

Have you ever printed something via wifi and it works and you're like "ok, cool, I've set it up and it works" and then you don't change anything at all and you go to print and your computer is like "no sweat, we're definitely connected to the printer" and nothing prints, so you send more inputs and still nothing, so you take a break and then go to investigate and the printer is printing out 30 copies and you desperately try to cancel them but the printer keeps going like its on a mission from God?

That, but its a 6 ton trailer that's phantom driving 60 miles an hour.

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 61 points 5 days ago

"Trailer. Unpaired."

"NOOOO"

[-] ellieficent@reddthat.com 12 points 5 days ago

Your music slightly quiets, you think you just heard the windows Bluetooth disconnect sound... but the music goes back to original volume and everyone looks at each other like "did I just hear something? Nah, musta be crazy" and you go back to driving while your trailer quietly passes you by in the right lane.

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 8 points 5 days ago

I've actually seen that sort of happen with a conventional trailer, as someone hit a bad railroad crossing and seemingly didn't have the trailer chains that you should have for such things. Watched both the truck and trailer go past while I was at the light, and thought, "huh, don't see that often."

[-] MoonMelon@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 days ago

The print spooler is basically the Typhon Expanse. You send a bunch of print jobs that disappear, and when you walk down there to see what the fuck is up some ancient print job pops out like Kelsey Grammer wearing the ancient Star Fleet uniform with the stack-of-coffee-filters collar.

[-] unphazed@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Answer: Linux. My Windows machines jist fucking hate printers, I often have to delete and reinstall jist to get them to work. My Bazzite machine; "Sure, coming right up. Btw, you haven't restarted your machine in 70 days, you really need to install updates."

[-] arctanthrope@lemmy.world 77 points 5 days ago

not even considering all the techy computery things that can go wrong, the little towing dongle needs its own whole drivetrain, with an engine more powerful than the car, so that it can keep up while hauling a load, better brakes so it can stop quicker than the car while hauling a load, and automated steering system. it's like buying, and paying for gas for, a whole second car that's better than the car you already have, but without seats

[-] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 39 points 5 days ago

It seems to me that the use-case for this technique is freight hauling, where a series of trailers follow a single, human-driven truck, thereby skirting the law and reducing payroll. And, once again, the techbros have re-invented trains, but worse.

[-] ZC3rr0r@piefed.ca 5 points 5 days ago

This is an idea similar to driverless / autonomous vehicles. Great on paper, but nigh impossible in the real world.

Imagine if you will a road train of several dozen trailers and a lead driver: what happens if wildlife jumps in between the lead driver and the rest of the convoy? Or if the lead vehicle has to make an emergency correction? Or if other traffic merges into the convoy? Or one of the trailers crashes?

There are so many ways this can go wrong and only one perfect scenario in which i all "just works".

[-] trem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 days ago

I saw this picture many years ago already, so I don't think that's happening anymore...

[-] ellieficent@reddthat.com 5 points 5 days ago

While that was my first thought, it might actually be useful in the "I rarely tow anything" category.. like a Uhaul rental. So you don't need to actually OWN the towing dongle. Or a car with that much power. You just rent it when you need it.

Which honestly would be nice... we've got too many people who own massive gas guzzlers just for that one or two times a year they need to use it for its intended purpose.

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[-] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

It also needs enough ballast for the whole thing not to become unstable, which also lowers efficiency if it's not itself carrying passengers or cargo.

[-] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

All for what, less wear on your main vehicle

Absurd

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[-] balsoft@lemmy.ml 33 points 5 days ago

I was like 90% sure it's a joke. It's not

Thankfully it was published 4 years ago and didn't seem to go anywhere in that time. Good.

I immediately checked to see if it was posted on April 1st. It was not

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 days ago

good and bad news, simultaneous: No one can have hitchless towing until patent expiration: 17 years from then, afaik.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

No one can have hitchless towing until patent expiration

No one in the US/EU.

Folks in China and India will be cruising around with homelabbed wifi setups inside the next five years. Folks out in Nigeria and Yemen will be daisy chaining motorized vehicles for half a mile. Brazil will host an expo full of novelty wifi connected drone swarms. Cuba will invent some kind of insane telemedicine surgery tool that they only have the imported parts to build four of, but will revolutionize medicine for the next fifty years.

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[-] arrow74@lemmy.zip 19 points 5 days ago

Why did we skip past cool tech and go straight to idiocy.

Like if your car and trailer are connected physically and digitally that could be cool an enhance safety. A trailer that can respond and assist a hard brake? Cool. Wifi or digital connection goes down? Okay now it just works like a normal trailer.

But no that's too simple and it works

[-] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago

A trailer that can respond and assist a hard brake

we already have that, and it's legally required for trailers above a specific weight in many places

[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 days ago

but think about how much more money the manufacturers could make if it claimed to be AI powered

[-] OwOarchist@pawb.social 10 points 5 days ago

A trailer that can respond and assist a hard brake?

Trailer brakes have existed for a long time, and are common. They're often mandatory in some settings.

[-] Rom@hexbear.net 10 points 5 days ago

Even braking systems already exist, entirely in the realm of physics with no digital point of failure required

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

I presume the concept is "you have need to tow a 5,000 pound trailer and you just have your Toyota Corolla"

To provide effective towing, your vehicle has to be rugged, powerful, and weigh enough to not get yanked around by your load, meaning even when not towing it's a heavy vehicle. Instead this imagines a self-driving, passengerless truck that plays follow the leader and hopes it's close enough to towing to be allowed.

Of course, the problem as illustrated is that they show a tiny little thing towing a big payload. The physics just doesn't work (I suppose if the trailer is hollow aluminum and the tow is lead...)

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[-] melfie@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 days ago

Guess they were so impressed with Homer’s car, they invited him to help design the tow hitch.

[-] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

I've been waiting for this since the moment trucking companies announced the intention to go driverless. Gonna grab some popcorn and watch cyberpunk road pirates become a thing.

[-] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 10 points 5 days ago

I own several wifi jammers, lets see how this works out

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Guys sliding into the DMs with a "Watch this one neat trick where I disable your wifi" when wifi is so unreliable that nobody will notice.

[-] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 4 points 5 days ago

Just disabling? I disabled it then hosted an evil twin with the same name :) your toyota is mine

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[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 days ago

The wifi part is completely unnecesary, but powered wheeled trailers that assist "pull" is a clear benefit. Especially for camper trailers who need electricity to power life inside them. Solar+batteries also helps them power your primary home when they are parked. But a hitch, and wired "data" connection, is basic safety backup, and does not need a separate WIFI tow motor/vehicle.

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

If the trailer had some steering/drive, ok. This illustrated concept of a "detached hitch" has some physics problems, since the trailer is just going to yank that thing all over the place.

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It's going to be real interesting when there is a catastrophic power failure on the vehicle or trailer.

[-] makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

Hey you know how towing takes advantage of the crazy amount of extra torque car engines have to facilitate the insane driving people do to increase that efficiency? What if we got rid of that, gave you another thing you had to fill up, and you just have to pray the most recent patch doesn't make your trailer drive into a lake because it didn't know the ramp was closed

Would you pay extra for that?

[-] Jackusflackus@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

This may be one of the worst ideas I’ve ever seen be greenlit

literally what's the point of that

[-] Sculptor9157@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 days ago

Another large purchase to foist onto consumers who opt out of the truck market, but fantasize about using this machine to haul stuff all over town.

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[-] eletes@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 days ago

Reads like a scene out of snow crash

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

You just established they in fact cannot catch you.

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Given it's Toyota, did they think this was the option to give Priuses and such a tow option? It's clearly insane, but I could imagine the stupid use case being that (even though you could also just rent a truck for that move...)

[-] balsoft@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 days ago

A Prius can tow like 700 kg if you put a hitch on it, almost the limit for a B class license.

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[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Think it was an "indulge the stupid executives dumb idea so he can say "innovation".

[-] Etterra@discuss.online 4 points 5 days ago

Can't wait to hear about one of these things causing a 47-car pile up when the metal in a tunnel superstructure interferes with the Wi-Fi signal.

[-] fedikitty@piefed.social 3 points 5 days ago

I wonder if hackers would ever just make them all drive to a chop shop if they don't crash on the way.

[-] user_aready_exists@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

This would make a fun version between the games Traffic Racer and Snake.

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