Some of you didn't spend your childhoods reading dystopian science fiction, and it shows.
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I actually don’t think she does. She has a persecution complex, and gets off on being contrarian.
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>Implying propaganda is categorically bad.
because propaganda is categorically something my enemy does. i bravely speak truth to power in order to educate the people and expose them to my self-evident correctness.
to which the KGB agent replies 'Thank you we try very hard with our propaganda. But honestly its not in the same league as yours.' The CIA agent looks up from his drink and ask dismissively 'What propaganda?'
Of course it is, literally the only people on this entire planet who do propaganda are the Russians and the Chinese
of course it is! if it was good they wouldn't call it propaganda, they'd call it unbiased journalism.
You mean the dystopian science fiction where a cadre of rich people send the children from their subjugated territories to kill each other for their own amusement?
Or the dystopian science fiction where the state tells us what to think and then punishes us for not thinking that?
Or the dystopian science fiction where people who are slightly different are forced to live in segregated territories where they are subject to wanton acts of cruelty and occasional campaigns of extermination?
I want to make sure I'm properly read on the subject at hand
Propaganda is about saying slogans over and over again until people believe them.
Only partially correct. She is forgetting that once enough people believe enough in the slogans, these beliefs will then materialize. It's infra-materialism 101.
Also that’s not how it actually works unless you take Goebbels’ word salad at face value.
The industrialists and their petit bourgeois wannabes believed in Nazism because of the material benefit they derived from it, not because they were hypnotically brainwashed by Goebbels’ super special mind-controlling slogans.
Nazi propaganda is actually very mediocre. It’s just that the population was very Nazi.
Some of you didn't spend your childhoods reading dystopian science fiction, and it shows.
Key word here is fiction because it's fucking made up
But also none of the dystopian fiction I read as a child had chanting slogans until you believed them as any sort of a plot point. Like, that just isn't a thing in any of the dystopian fiction I've read, and I've read some amount. I do not know what she's on about here.
nice screenname comrade 
Oh thanks!
She just means newspeak from 1984. But because she doesn't want to say 1984 because she knows she'll be ridiculed for doing so, she attributes it to "dystopian fiction" as a whole.
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Dystopian Sci-fi is also mostly shit YA romance novels
Admitting that she gets her understanding of propaganda from fiction is 
Even userbase of the fucking subreddit for propaganda posters understands what propaganda is better than Ms. Fartlow
I am sure the “Support Israel” Rallies will have 0 chanting
Counterpoint: Eve Fartlow
"None of you are immune to propoganda" I scream at the high school sports fans chanting D-fence.
Childhood reading dystopian fiction
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Some brain dead YA shit called like Fredrick Fuckboy and the Maze Authority: Rebel Romance
As someone who spent his childhood reading dystopian science fiction, I can confidently state that there are better things to do with your time.
former child who was called precocious exactly once: I bet you've never read a little book called 1984. otherwise you'd know that politics is bad.
Slogans is literally 1987 Georg Orwin
What is wild to me is that it is rarely the chanting crowds that are supposed to be 'wrong' in your average dystopia sci-fi novel. Only 1984 has that, and they are mandatory rallies in movie theatres, the "Hour of Hate" by the state, not spontaneous protests by the people.
Just say, "Some people here haven't read 1984 in high school and it shows." we know that's what you actually mean.
Um actually sweaty it's the Two Minute Hate 
it's Two Minutes Hate. your chocolate ration will be reduced by 25 grams.
I wonder why popular american culture spends so much time drilling 1984 as an example of the worst thing ever. Oh, well, not that important 
Or that the currency of Oceania is the US dollar
Has she ever been to a sporting event? Does she think that people think that their rival baseball teams confuse pitchers with belly itchers?
They do if you chant it enough. Don't you know how propaganda works? Have you even read the Hunger Games?
Children's dystopian science fiction is propaganda.
As someone who spent their childhood reading cool science fiction novels, I think robots are people and it's cool when the story ends with a pun
Yes all the people who are chanting slogans are chanting slogans because they chanted slogans so much that they decided to chant slogans
Man I swear to god, whoever is paying this woman would get a better bang for their buck just paying me to not do anything at all
Her job imo is to get people to take their eyes off the atrocities being committed by the IDF to gawk at a dumbass Scottish woman
I can't believe she's Scottish, she's very American-coded
This is a common thing throughout the Anglosphere (and presumably elsewhere)
For whatever reason, our far-right CHUD types will invariably act as American as possible, even when they are talking about "defending" Scottish/British/Canadian/Australian etc "culture" from (insert enemy here).
I have no idea why this is so prevalent though, I'm sure someone else has a good explanation for why this keeps happening.
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That's the trick, she's on Hamas' payroll dragging down Zionism's PR.
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What do we want? An end to slogans! When do we want it? Whenever we're done chanting!
I'm not entirely certain her persona isn’t performative art. Every post I'm half convinced is a bit.
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I got a couple of depressing SF books on my shelf that have sat there for years. We're looking more and more like those books, so what's the point?
"some of you didn't spend your childhood reading dystopian science fiction, and it shows."
Imagine unironically treating fiction works like political theory.
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