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Agents with the FBI’s elite evidence response team were delayed in reaching the scene of a mass shooting at Brown University in December because there was no FBI plane available to take them to Rhode Island, according to three sources and a whistleblower’s account newly provided to Congress.

FBI Director Kash Patel was in south Florida at the time with one of the FBI’s two available jets and had given an order to hold the other for another team that would not normally respond to the scene, according to the whistleblower and the sources. The evidence response team instead had to drive through the night amid a snowstorm to reach the university in Providence, Rhode Island, by 9 o’clock the next morning, according to the whistleblower’s account..

An FBI spokesperson told MS NOW Tuesday he disputed the allegation that there were delays because of the director’s travels but said he would check into the matter more deeply to gather information.

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[-] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 104 points 1 week ago

Is that the same FBI spokesman that laughed and ridiculed the reporter for asking if Kash as at the Olympics like an hour before the dude posted a video of himself in the locker room?

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 65 points 1 week ago

Couldn't they have flown commercial?

[-] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago

Couldn’t they have not gone at all?

[-] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago

Couldn’t they have been tried and sentenced?

[-] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Couldn’t they have left a suicide note detailing the crimes of the rest of the administration?

[-] SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 week ago

Couldn't we sail into the stars, boldly going where no human has gone before, leaving earth and its petty tyrants behind?

[-] Redacted@piefed.ca 11 points 1 week ago

Okay but if you find a ghost ship trapped in orbit around Neptune called the Event Horizon DO NOT GO INSIDE!

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Wait I was boarding the Event Horizon while you typed that, do what now?

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

Couldn't they have had a V8?

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

No, I meant the investigators. You can't expect someone of Kash Patel's lofty stature to wait in an airport with commoners.

But why did the investigators have to drive the whole way?

[-] waddle_dee@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

depending on the severity of the weather, its quite possible commercial flights were delayed anyway.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago

I suppose, but if the weather was that bad the lack of a plane wouldnt matter.

[-] waddle_dee@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

well, not exactly. weather can be bad enough to ground commercial flights. but private, federal jets, with a qualified pilot, whose probably ex air force anyway, could. commercial flights take way more precautions in weather due to liabilities. so yeah, this seems like a pretty big fuck up.

[-] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago

Next admin needs to put this mf away for at least 20 years. I don't want to see this fuck podcasting after he is done

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 11 points 1 week ago

Like Garland prosecuting J6? Like Congress prosecuting the current president?

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That shit goes back to Johnson at least. Motherfucker didn't even wait till Lincoln was in the ground before shitting all over his legacy by passing the 13th and getting Reconstruction cancelled. He may have also pardoned some of the traitors of the confederacy, but I don't remember right now.

Just like Ford pardoned Nixon because "we need to move forward and heal, not dwell on the past." NO MOTHERFUCKER! We need to apply the law exactly as section 1983 of the federal code was written and passed by Congress. Not the current illegal amendment to said law that exists in The Federal Register. That version got "copied word for word," incorrectly by a single unnamed secretary in 1884. The law was passed in 1881. A single 16 word clause disappeared that translates out of legalese, "we don't care what you wrote in state and local laws, no one has immunity from the law, not even The President, you racist and classist fucks."

Hell, even Ulysses S. Grant referenced that law the third or fourth time he got pulled over for "speeding on a horse inside the city limits of Washington D.C." in 1882. According to both DC police records, and The President's personal diary, when Grant got pulled over the police officer realized WHO he pulled over and tried to let him go. Grant replied, [sic.] No Sir! The Congress just passed a law last year that says I'm not above the law, and should be restrained in my actions by the law. Issue the fine. I've paid it before, I shall pay it again.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 1 week ago

I suspect it goes back to Washington, tbh, but we have such short memories and deep memory holes.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Look into history. A whole lot of what we view as "normal" for the American Democracy was defined post 1880. Owning a gun was kind of scandalous up until then. Immigration was just the norm until then. The conservatives have lied and twisted the intent of the founders in every direction they could, except for truthful.

The founders had a bunch of other issues we don't have to deal with today. Did they do everything correctly? Hell no. If they did we wouldn't be in this mess. They did what they could when they could, which was frequently not anywhere close to enough, but all of them are remembered because they weren't radicals. My great-great-great-great-Grandfather was named Reverend David Rice. He owned 2/3 of the Virginia Colony, or basically most of Virginia. He sold it off to support his friends Ben, Tom, and Jim. That would be Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, and James Madison. He raised around 1.5 million pounds of silver, or around 7 million British Pounds at the time, and gave it to found The US Army and US Navy. No history book covers him, because if an unrepentant slaver walked on his land, he shot or hung them. He was "normal" enough to work with slavers that were abolitionists. It took a lot of internal family fighting for his father to free all of their slaves in 1730, when he was but a teen. By 1776, he chose a side and Britain could burn for all he cared. The shepards tend their communities in every age.

[-] TronBronson@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Owning a gun was scandalous pre 1880? The previous 80 years had been nonstop violence as people moved to carve out the western half of the country. Also as a means of providing food etc. I'm pretty sure the guns were extremely common.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If you were on the frontier it was expected. If you were trying to carry in towns or cities you'd get arrested. Also since the milita were better organized, most of the members didn't want to store weapons in their own homes.

[-] TronBronson@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Fair enough. It looks like a lot of the guns were government issued for the war although some participants brought their own. Rich people owned guns for sure! Sounds like a class divide but I’d need to do more research.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth -1 points 1 week ago

It's very much bipartisan.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

As I said. The conservatives. There isn't a non conservative party in the US, especially after the Clintons got done reforming the DNC.

You can try to "both parties the same," this shit, but history won't back you up. It has always been the far right pushing individual, rather than trained militia, ownership of guns, as well as pushing gun control while screaming that the more moderate conservatives were going to do what they were already doing.

Seems to be a pattern of projection there.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 1 week ago

Lol. Gun control got pushed when the Black Panthers advocated for legal possession, afaik.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's when it got passed in California. Conservatives managed some gun control laws in a lot of other states prior and after that. The rich funded movement started getting pushed for as far back as The Business Plot. Again, please read your history. The rich literally declared war on the poor in Congress in the 1920s.

Wilson is arguably tied with Jackson for most damaging president to the US ever in the history of the US. And Jackson is barely hanging in there with the worst, deepest (by percentage of the GDP, not raw dollar amounts), longest depression in US history, caused partially, but it was the straw that broke the camel's back, by paying off the entirety of the national debt, and The Trail of Tears.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 0 points 1 week ago

If you're going that far, may as well start with Washington, as I said. And yes, it's both sides.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Then you literally can't start with Washington, as he was a vocal no party candidate, literally not officially running for office, and the last thing he said as the POTUS, while there were people begging him to NOT step down, was, "I sincerely hope and pray that The United States never engages in partisan politics, for if we do it will lead to the downfall of this potentially great democracy."

Jefferson and Madison would also be questionable there since they were actively pushing for more rights for the citizenry. Jefferson actively trying to prevent the "tyranny of ancestors," despite his questionable views, he failed but he tried. Madison meanwhile protested the "tyranny of the rich, privileged, and pirates." Madison just HATED pirates, and also had some questionable views.

Read your history. You have harmed yourself by not doing so.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 0 points 1 week ago

Ah, Jefferson the slave owner who regularly raped his houseslave? Madison? I'm not sure who you think you're educating, or what Whitewashed history you'd have me read, but please, do continue. 😂

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Yes, show your historical ignorance by framing people with your current understanding of morality. Jefferson was an abolishonist, or my ancestor would have lynched or shot him. Madison as well. Same for Washington, as I understand, though he never actually met my ancestor.

Try reading and understanding history. You are just showing that you are an uneducated reactionary authoritarian.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 0 points 1 week ago
[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Non-sequiter. You have no arguments, just like the southern states. Georgia, North Carolina, and South Carolina are why we started the union as slave states, by only a single vote. The same states rejected the policies that the first 5 presidents and all northern senators supported that would have made this country the first democratic socialist country on earth in 1808.

Learn your history, or bless your heart, sweetie.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 0 points 1 week ago

Edit: f what I just said. I return your blessing, packed down, shaken together, and running over, darling.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Projection at its finest. Typical.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Can we round up a few more of these "influencers" (some of which are probably just conservative activists being funded by the likes of Russia) while we are at it?

I'd love to see Lil' Alex in prison, along with that fuckface that started the Minneapolis thing and is apparently trying to start some shit in California.

Same goes for Benny Johnson. JFC, that smug little asshole should really be in prison.

So many modern Tokyo Roses deserve their time in the barrel.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

I think we can and should investigate them for foreign ties. They are all such grifters I am sure crime will be uncovered in those investigations for the majority of them.

[-] TronBronson@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

The spirit of Joseph McCarthy must return to this great land to punish the russia-fuckers

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

Joseph McCarthy coming back like Jacob Marley would be wild.

[-] Tronn4@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago
[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 1 week ago

The evidence response team instead had to drive through the night amid a snowstorm

That's alright, then! It's not like an entire night's delay and a snowstorm would make evidence gathering any more difficult than what a prompt response would enable! 🤦

[-] Ledivin@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

The guy is a piece of shit, sure, but how does the fucking FBI only have access to two planes?

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Why would they have more? They’re rather expensive.

[-] BigDiction@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

The Behavioral Analysis Unit is always using the shit out of one of them.

[-] rhombus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

They’re probably only meant for rapid response situations, but Patel is using them as personal jets. He didn’t even fly back until a whole day after the shooting.

[-] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Nothing will happen. This is a full oligarchy. There's the elite, and there are little people.

[-] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Fucking banchode.

[-] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

Huh, so a lack of planes delayed sending thoughts and prayers. Good to know.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago

the jet couldve been used by the criminal minds team

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