Libs be like: "Trans people have stop being ultras and vote for the transphobic party blue" (thelemmy.club)

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No one wants to admit this. You’re not allowed to admit it. But the political incentive to throw us under the bus has been there for some years now, and yet Dem electeds remain pretty reliable thus far. They’ve hemmed and hawed and toyed with the idea of selling us out lately,

But we haven’t actually seen legislation happen. Not even on sports! Which is crazy; if they were really as shrewd and calculating on this, you’d expect Newsom to have pushed and signed a sports ban by now, in the run up for 2028

We have, unambiguously, the most pro-trans major/recently-ruling political party in the world. The Democrats are literally as good as it gets, in terms of major-party support, anywhere on earth for us. Everyone will get mad at me for saying it, but it’s a fact.

And what’s our attitude? Fuck the Democrats, they’re scum who hate us, lol.

I swear we’re a suicidal constituency. We actively work to repel even the inexplicably solid allies we have.

https://x.com/hecubian_devil/status/2023810993454018612

She is defending someone whose take is that dems should abandon trans people btw

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[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 69 points 2 months ago

We have, unambiguously, the most pro-trans major/recently-ruling political party in the world. The Democrats are literally as good as it gets, in terms of major-party support, anywhere on earth for us. Everyone will get mad at me for saying it, but it’s a fact.

The Communist Party of Cuba literally exists and have passed the world's most progressive family law code.

Besides Cuba, many places around the world, from Sweden to Iran, has trans healthcare as part of their universal healthcare systems. The US democrats are vehemently opposed to even the idea of universal healthcare, let alone transgender care.

Americans doesn't know shit about anything that happens in the rest of the world.

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 30 points 2 months ago

Didn't Cuba have GRS and HRT covered under their national health care plan like decades ago? The 1980s I think?

[-] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 29 points 2 months ago

They literally make this shit up purely out of copium and american exceptionalism. Death to Amerikkka

[-] SmithrunHills@hexbear.net 23 points 2 months ago

I want whatever the fuck they're smoking. The sheer audacity to say something like this without bothering to do even the slightest SMIDGEN of research while also sounding so fucking confident and smug about their boastful ignorance. Holy shit are AmeriKKKans hopeless

[-] MayoPete@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago

Goddammit this isn't good for mental health.

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago

The Communist Party of Cuba literally exists and have passed the world's most progressive family law code.

and that was a referendum

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 57 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The neolibs support polling when it comes to hating trans ppl but not when it comes to hating Israel.

Or universal healthcare, or taxing the rich. They ignore polling on all of it.

[-] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago

Or doing anything about ICE, or climate action, or most things

[-] Trying2KnowMyself@hexbear.net 49 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

In case it needs saying: Harris wasn’t actually good on trans rights.

Some Democrats blame party’s position on transgender rights in part for Harris’ loss (archive)

Harris Loss Has Democrats Fighting Over How to Talk About Transgender Rights (archive)

Why Donald Trump won and Kamala Harris lost: An early analysis of the results (hint: it wasn’t genocide or the economy) (archive)

These Democratic Lawmakers Are Already Blaming Trans People for Trump’s Win (archive)

I’m sure there’s more out there.

Also, even with their shitty takes, Democrats are still “winning” on trans rights based on polling.

[-] himeneko@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago

oh my god kkkopmala was literally against the idea of covering grs for a trans prisoner who is revising the record saying she's pro trans

[-] shath@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago

"if not the trans, then how did we lose?" clueless

[-] TheSpectreOfGay@hexbear.net 36 points 2 months ago

OH MY GOD, WHY DO YOU CARE SO MUCH ABOUT CHILDREN PLAYING GAMES WITH EACH OTHER peppino-scream

[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 25 points 2 months ago

How else are they going to afford to go to college without a sports scholarship? Being good at sports is the rational answer to knowledge being locked behind paying a small fortune. There's no other solution to this problem anywhere in the world[^1].

[^1]: international-community-1 international-community-2

[-] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 months ago

pretty sure that's just a yankkkee thing, even the rest of the west isn't that unhinged

[-] Arahnya@hexbear.net 28 points 2 months ago

the amount of times i've heard a liberal say (in response to "we can do better") "No we can't! This is as good as it gets!!" isn't a lot, but its wild that it's been said to me multiple times from different people.

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago

maybe-later-honey Look - honey. How are we to flip Tex@$$ blue if we don't become Bush/Cheney Republicans? There just isn't any other space for your niche "human rights" in the Overton Window. This is how we win. You have to learn to compromise. /s

[-] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 28 points 2 months ago

That so-far at the end is such a self-own. She literally doesn't even believe herself that democrats are trans allies.

[-] shath@hexbear.net 27 points 2 months ago

running interference for people who would dance on your grave if it won them the right to do nothing to fix things

really smart thing to do

[-] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago

They would dance on our Graves if it gave them the faint hope they could win the right. All the triangulation has won them literally zero voters

[-] shath@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago

spending millions of dollars to accurately project an image of the party precisely zero people will vote for

now that's centrism

[-] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There is no rational reason to have that seperated by gender in the first place other than imposing gender norms.

I remember thinking this was a weird thing to do when I was 10.

[-] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 25 points 2 months ago

Women don't get the amount of support, time and funding that men get from their childhood to become professionals at many sports, it's one of the main reasons behind gender differences in performance in some categories of elite athletes, removing gender separation in sports could potentially hurt a lot of professional sportswomen in this regard. Ofc full support to trans people getting to compete in whichever gender they choose.

[-] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago

And mixed spaces are notoriously toxic for female athletes, too. In chess, women masters fought to keep the women's divisions and tournaments just because they're safe spaces for them.

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago

every once in a while a woman will be a kicker or punter in gridiron football and they pretty much all get assaulted by teammates.

[-] MayoPete@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

Dudes do NOT rock

[-] donnywholovedbowling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 months ago

K-12 is kindergarten through 12th grade, which usually ends around 18 years old

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 23 points 2 months ago

You that almost equal spread in the varying opinions of "Harris" voters? I read that as pure ignorance among vote people. They don't know what to think. Why? Because the Democrats did nothing to educate or defend transgender / NB people while the Republicans cookie cutter rubber stamped hate all over.

Meanwhile Republicans went 100% all in on it. Politicians, campaigns, media blitz, and rapid succession across half the states passing discrimatory law after another.

However females seem to have more compassion and empathy around the issue then the frothingfash WHY NO FEMALE WANT DATE WITH ME

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah….and the American public (as always) is factually and morally wrong.

[-] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago

She is defending someone whose take is that dems should abandon trans people btw

classic

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago

death to transphobes.

[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

I want to know who the fuck is dying on the hill of restroom sortition. A restaurant I went to not long ago had bathroom doors that said "Pointers or Setters... We don't care, just wash your paws". It feels like that should be the normal approach.

Denying puberty-blockers is draconian and kinda ageist.

Sports are a tricky issue because you get false positives no matter what method you use.

[-] MayoPete@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

What good is majority rule if the majority is like this? Seriously why should I "accept" that a majority of people who vote want me to have less freedom? And that's ok because we call it "democracy"?