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[–] 482 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Please, pretty please, be the spark that will stop OSS projects from hosting their "support forums" on Discord.

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  • [–] 172 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    I wish it was only limited to support forums. I've even seen a Linux kernel driver where the Issues sections was closed and you should go to Discord instead. No thanks.

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  • [–] 128 points 6 months ago

    It's horrible. We already had that stuff figured out. Wiki pages and forums to make information accessible even after 20 minutes have passed. Fuck that development and everyone that was/is pushing for that.

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  • [–] 36 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    It's too bad the open source community couldn't find some programmers to help them make an alternative.

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    [–] 238 points 6 months ago (42 children)

    Hear me out. Maybe, if you are a parent, its your duty to keep an eye on your child, and exert some control over the spaces and people they interact with?

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  • [–] 130 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Conservatives have been using the "think of the children line" to justify Draconian overeach for years. All while simultaneously doing everything in their power to take away programs that help children.

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  • [–] 31 points 6 months ago (12 children)

    Let's not act like the dems don't do some of the same shit.

    And no I'm not both sidesing this shit...just saying that the dems/left uses this reasoning a lot as well.

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  • [–] 27 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

    Minnesota recently used their tax on billionaires to expand education and provide free lunch to children so while the party isn't perfect they are not at all comparable.

    What makes them so similar is first pass the post it guarantees a two party system and the practice of gerrymandering creating safe seats. The worst Democrats are the ones with the safest seats. If you want positive change start there.

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  • [–] 43 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Absofucking- lutely!

    My 12 year old has zero unsupervised access to the internet. Zero. "But they'll suffer sociallly!"

    Will they? My son has tons of friends and they play sports and Nerf guns. And, he can read. A whole chapter book, on his own, without prompting.

    Suffer socially, ask the "incels" who have recovered if the internet access they had as teens "helped them socially".

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  • [–] 27 points 6 months ago

    My nephew plays lots of on online games. My sister checks in with me to make sure that he is both playing games that are appropriate for him, and with people who are appropriate to play with. We've setup a discord specifically for him and his friends, and the account he uses is actually my sister's account, on her own device, so she has direct control over what communities he's on in discord, who he talks to, and what content he is exposed to.

    He is not allowed to play public lobby games with out her supervision, or a trusted "chaperone" (one of many IRL friend and family members) being in the lobby with him. This is as much about protecting him from harmful content, as it is about teaching him proper gaming etiquette. He was showing some toxic behaviors (greifing mainly) and I shut that down pretty quick.

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    [–] 223 points 6 months ago (12 children)

    Americans- If you're thinking "this isn't so bad" please consider that all it takes is a teeny tiny, insignificant api added to the back end with absolutely no notice to users and suddenly the DHS has a database of dissenters, with cross-referenced IDs, photos of faces, chat history, link share history, raw uploaded photos, and approximate locations.

    Say no to this. If you need a temporary alternative that's quick to get going, create a signal group chat with your friends.

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  • [–] 37 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Forget DHS or other government agencies, these companies have been shown to be untrustworthy stewards of our data from regular hackers.

    I get that discord is used to groom kids and there is a very real risk to allowing children to use it unsupervised, but that means kids devices are the ones that need to be locked down, not the rest of the world.

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    [–] 130 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Good.

    Discord is overused for help forums and wikis, which makes them extremely difficult to search and dependent upon third party software to be maintained. I hope this will force people away from that behaviour and back to good old fashioned messageboards that have been working just fine since at least the 80s

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    [–] 127 points 6 months ago (18 children)

    "I categorically cannot trust tech companies with that kind of personal data," wrote one frustrated user, with many hoping they might be able to convince Discord to do a U-turn with enough public pressure. Others went further. "What a great way to kill your community," added another longtime user, while some predicted "that’s game over for Discord" and remarked ruefully that "privacy on the internet is truly dead".

    LOL. Just like Netflix price increases, or reddit third party apps thing, the protest will barely register in usage metrics and discord will carry on.

    These companies have effectively infinite resources with which to test changes with user reference groups, model potential outcomes, and mitigate risks. It's pure hubris to suggest that you have a better understanding of Discord's user base than they do.

    The vaaast majority of users will just do the video age test and never think about it again.

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    [–] 120 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Stop a calling this "age.verification" and start calling it what it is, "identity harvesting".

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    [–] 76 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

    Many of the communities I am in are pissed and these aren't even tech people, this is even worse than what reddit did.The thing that most people online hate is age verification, who thought this was a good idea, reminds me of when Tumblr decided to ban porn same level of stupidity.

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    [–] 76 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    they don’t arrest child traffickers and rapists.

    No no, it’s the child at fault for being at risk around them.

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    [–] 74 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    The real problem is, that the majority of users won't change, and it's the users that make Discord. There could be a much better alternative but if users are too lazy to change, it is worth nothing.

    This is the case with Facebook messenger too. There are great alternatives, but it's messenger that has the userbase

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    [–] 67 points 6 months ago* (22 children)

    hunting for alternatives

    I've heard people mention Matrix, but I've not tried it yet.

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  • [–] 70 points 6 months ago (18 children)

    It's definitely nowhere near as polished as Discord, but it does a good enough job for my small gaming group to have moved over.

    The equivalent of a Discord server is a Space, which is made up of Rooms (channels). Unfortunately Rooms are displayed in order of recent activity; admins can't define a set order to group things by function.

    The two weirdest things: there are no audio calls, you have to do a video call and turn off the webcam. And the process of logging in on your phone requires scanning a QR code from your desktop (a technically-minded person will understand this is necessary for E2EE, but to an average user it's just strange).

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    [–] 61 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    As a generational discord hater, this pleases me.

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    [–] 58 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    The absolute shitload majority of users will not care about this enough to stop using the product

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    [–] 57 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

    I found this little substack article that lists out alternatives. The timing is is great & I hope it helps people out.

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    [–] 56 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    After what happened in Nepal last year, this 100% tracks with the dystopian narrative we are currently living. The powers that be saw a small country use it as a tool to affect change. To me, and tell me if I lm jumping to conclusions here, its obvious as to why this policy change is happening at all, to prevent the site from being used in that manner again.

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    [–] 51 points 6 months ago*

    Note, this is happening for the same reason Reddit started enshittifying much harder all of a sudden. Discord wants to do an IPO and so they're going to suddenly start squeezing their users to make the numbers look good just in time for that IPO. Their bet is that they have enough momentum that enough people will stick with them long enough for the IPO to succeed, and after that happens, it's someone else's problem.

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  • [–] 47 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    So they're going to turn everybody into teenagers. Last I checked, teenagers can't buy things like nitro right? Doesn't that completely fuck up their own business model?

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    [–] 41 points 6 months ago

    Y’all just aren’t thinking about the shareholders.

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  • [–] 34 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    It'll be the new Victorian age all over again. Morals and acting righteous up top and secret human stuff just underneath the surface. Just look at what is happening in the bad old usa today. This is not about protecting minors.

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    [–] 34 points 6 months ago* (25 children)

    Potential alternatives:

    Guilded

    Element

    Revolt

    Telegram

    Mumble

    Session

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    [–] 32 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I've been floating the idea of running Matrix on my NAS anyway, so thanks to Discord for finally pissing me off enough to prioritise getting off of the shitty platform.

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    [–] 28 points 6 months ago

    I was using discord with notifiarr for a notification platform for my jellyfin server/*arr stack. Shut all that down and setup a self-hosted instance of ntfy today. Works perfect, should have done it sooner.

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  • [–] 26 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    sadly people will forget about this next week

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    [–] 25 points 6 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

    The EU has apparently decided that this has to be done for most public platforms by July 2026, so Discord may not have much of a choice and other platforms will likely follow: (Edit: I forgot, the EU strict age verification stuff seems to be limited to EU DSA's definition of "platforms" so as a text messenger I'm not sure Discord is part of it. But this'll still likely be coming to more services near you and perhaps Discord is just voluntarily joining the chaos..)

    I could be wrong I’m not a lawyer, assume everything I write from here is bullshit, but see here:

    https://www.mlex.com/mlex/articles/2368265/online-services-get-up-to-12-months-to-apply-age-verification-eu-guidelines-say “Online services get up to 12 months to apply age verification, EU guidelines say” This was in July 2025.

    EU guidelines in question seem to be:

    1. https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/library/commission-publishes-guidelines-protection-minors and

    2. https://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/dae/redirection/document/118226

    Quotes:

    “[…] the Union legislature enacted Article 28 of Regulation (EU) 2022/2065 of the European Parliament and the Council (6). Paragraph 1 of this provision obliges providers of online platforms […] to ensure a high level of privacy, safety, and security of minors, […]”

    “Self-declaration is not considered to be an appropriate age-assurance measure as further explained below.”

    “In the following circumstances, […] the Commission considers the use of access restrictions supported by age verification methods an appropriate and proportionate measure to ensure a high level of privacy, safety, and security of minors: […] an online platform accessible to minors has identified risks to minors’ privacy, safety, or security, including content, conduct and consumer risks as well as contact risks (e.g., arising from features such as live chat, image/video sharing, anonymous messaging)”

    “Age estimation methods can complement age verification technologies and can be used in addition to the former,” (AKA the alternative to a literal gov ID check seems to be big data AI sucking up all user data to estimate user age.)

    The in my opinion horrible solution the EU seems to have found to avoid sharing the physical ID for services that don't want to request one, is apparently this app: https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/av-app-android-wallet-ui Which from what I can tell

    1. The EU app seems to require Google device attestation so all custom ROMs are out and to be a citizen you can apparently no longer own your device,

    2. Unless you use iOS or Android you're apparently not a citizen,

    3. Once everyone is used to using some citizen app like that, I feel like a fascist government could easily tie it to a social score or other authoritarian measures bewyond the age verification.

    Anyway, I'm not a lawyer and this isn't legal advice. But spread the word, somehow press seems to be ignoring this.

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    [–] 25 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    this is not at all what i'm seeing on discord, and I think it's worthy of note that the article's sample is Reddit posts in r/discordapp. Discord users who use Reddit in general have a systemic bias that's close to ours, as opposed to the majority that is young Discord users.

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    [–] 23 points 6 months ago

    Oh right, another account to delete.

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