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Alright, hear me out. I've been on a diet for several years now, and I've lost over 150 lbs. Part of the key to my success is having a variety of low / zero calorie things that I drink, perhaps most importantly including one sugarless energy drink per day. What makes them work within the context of my diet is that they're very flavorful, and take a very long time to drink relative to stuff like water, tea, soda, etc., and drinking them over that long period suppresses my appetite for the duration.

But I don't want, or need the "energy." And I sure don't need the heart palpitations, either. So basically, I am looking for "energy" drinks in terms of intensity of flavor, but without all the stuff that makes them "energy" drinks.

While looking I've seen some that are caffeine free, but they're still "energy" drinks. Do you guys think being caffeine free alone is enough to lessen the strain on my body?

And before anyone mentions drinking water: I DO drink water. I drink at least two liters every day. But just sitting here chugging water all day doesn't quiet the unceasing scream in my brain that tells me to eat an entire family's worth of food in one sitting.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago (2 children)

There's an anti-energy drink with melatonin to put you to sleep:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drank_(soft_drink)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

This shit rules. I get this everytime I see it. I crave soda or bubbly drinks at night when I need to go to bed.

And if you put a jolly rancher in the bottle, you totally get sloshed dude.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You could try a ginger beer. They're non-alcoholic, and are more of a strong ginger ale without caffeine. Some brands offer different strengths and some have sugar free options.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

These are a solid choice every now and then, maybe I should keep some around. I don't think I could drink them all the time though.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

mf just want to drink cough syrup for the taste.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

I just want to point out that caffeine is an appetite suppressant, so a decaf energy drink might not provide the effect you're looking for.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

To echo what @[email protected] and @[email protected] have said, try making your own kombucha!

Kombucha is tea that ferments kind of like vinegar does; it has lots of live probiotic cultures, plus lactic acid and acetic acid and a couple other things, that give it a strong taste and make it hard to chug. It has a small amount of caffeine in it, but nowhere even close to what an energy drink has. It may help with satiety; I also had a friend who used it to help overcome a dependency on alcohol.

Many store-bought brands have a considerable amount of sugar in them, plus they're kinda pricey. If you brew it yourself, you can control the tea/caffeine strength, as well as the sweetness and tartness (as time goes on, the sugar in the batch turns into acids and carbon dioxide), and eventually you can even mix other stuff like green tea, white tea, herbal teas, or other flavorings in with it.

All it takes to make your own is a couple black tea bags, a little vinegar, some sugar, a large enough jar, some starter, and a bit of patience. You brew the tea, you sweeten it to southern sweet tea levels, you drop its pH below 4, and then you wait. In 8-12 days, the sweetness should diminish to only a faint level.

I recommend at least a quart-size jar to brew it in. If you're interested, I can mail you a starter, I need to start my next big batch anyway.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't sound like the sort of thing I'd usually be into, but I'm definitely not opposed to trying it. Sounds kinda fun to make if nothing else.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Take a caffeine free soda and add one of those "water enhancer" things like a propel or mio in a similar flavour. All the overabundance of flavour without the caffeine.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

I put Mio in flavored sparkling waters sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Mio has caffeine in it though.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I actually had no idea you could get Mio with caffeine in it. They only sell the kind without caffeine by me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Its probably banned in Canada because theres like 600mg of caffeine in those little bottles and you can easily fuck yourself up on it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

That's crazy. Apparently they do sell it here, it's on Instacart, just not at any of the stores I go to regularly. Also they do have the ones that don't have caffeine down there, I checked the American Walmart website.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I've been giving my son my unique blend of caffeine-free NOS energy. Replacing the caffeine with actual NOS. Seems to chill him out if anything.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't know and I've asked myself the same question, but I think you should try kombucha if you haven't. It doesn't taste the exact same but it's the closest thing I know of to what you're looking for

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't kombucha usually have some caffeine?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've always seen it made from black tea, which has some caffeine. Less than an energy drink, but some. Unless the fermentation gets rid of the caffeine somehow.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

It has a bit of caffeine in it

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

Have you tried strong red tea/other herbal teas? They have lots of weird tastes

Also drinking hot water helps a bit more (it feels more filling). Congrats on the gains meow-coffee

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Try some ginseng based beverages would be my guess

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Ginseng can be pretty energetic by itself, depending on the person.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

man I wish there was a version of the blue full throttles that I could drink a bunch without dying

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

When I worked at a gas station, my daily diet was two full throttle blues, a bag of all dressed chips, and a BBQ sandwich from behind the counter (I was the one who put it on everyday so I got that good fresh BBQ)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

Hibiscus is awesome. It's zero calories, tastes like juice, and cheap. You can add it to your own homemade low calorie kombucha and you're in flavor town.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Electrolyte mixes maybe? Caffeine free ones might still have other stimulants.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's what I was thinking of. I forget the brand, but there's one that's pretty high in niacin and the ingredients read like a Red Bull without the caffeine.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Might find a diy recipe for your favorite drink online. Leave out the "energy" portions.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Didn't even think of this!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Sprite Zero Sugar, it has no caffeine

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I drink a lotta this

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

some youtuber called Nile Red made some decaf red bull, maybe that's useful somehow.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I just watched this video. No wonder Red Bull comes in opaque cans. It looks like jaundice piss.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

this is why blue flavors and fruit punch are superior

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Don't want to do a science experiment every time I want a bev

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

can you really synthesize the flavor of carbonated water mixed with sugar and caffeine

how many calories are you aiming for btw

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There is a juice brand called Fruit Shoot that I love and has surprisingly low sugar and added ingredients (relatively speaking, for the category, still be mindful of the nutrition), yet has very intense flavor.

The green apple one for example tastes like green apple candy, on the level of energy drinks IMO. Maybe you can give it a shot if you can get your hands on a Fruit Shoot

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

This is something I'm definitely gonna at least try, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Like what is this 'intense flavor' that you're looking for? Because otherwise what you're describing is the worst seltzer flavor imaginable. Guarana flavored La Croix

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's what I'm looking for. Guarana flavored La Croix. Super helpful. Thanks.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Herbal tea is my go-to for alcohol cravings, might work similarly for food.

There's a near infinite variety as well.

Flavor isn't "intense" like artificial flavoring though, but they can have strong flavors depending on what you're putting in them

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

they still have caffeine but i like ghost energy drinks, they only have 100% daily value of a lot of ingredients that other energy drinks have 200% or 400%. i think the caffeine is still at 200% but idk for sure i don't have a can right now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Sounds neat, maybe I could use that as a way to transition to something different if nothing else.

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