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[-] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 232 points 2 months ago

TW: suicide???

An autopsy report seen by Newsweek showed Ge was found tied with a bedsheet, with linens around his wrists and ankles in what the report described as a "hog-tied" position. The medical examiner noted that there had been other reported incidents of people who had hung themselves having done something similar, and that there were no obvious defense wounds.

Am I missing something here? How does someone hogtie themselves and then hang themselves? How is this being considered a suicide? Am I on crazy pills?

[-] drzoidberg@lemmy.world 144 points 2 months ago

It's not uncommon in Russia for people to commit suicide with a couple gunshots to the head, and then jumping out the window.

[-] Pistcow@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago
[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago

Thankfully Dick Cheney can no longer enter the chat.

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[-] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yes, the police said he fell down an elevator shaft. Onto some bullets.

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[-] Sunforged@lemmy.ml 81 points 2 months ago

there had been other reported incidents of people who had hung themselves having done something similar

nervous laughter What the fuck.

[-] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 34 points 2 months ago

David B. Rankin, the family’s attorney, in a statement to Newsweek: “It is truly mystifying how any detention facility can let someone leave their room, create three nooses and then hang themselves without anyone knowing. What’s worse is the lack of mental health care which could have prevented this tragedy. Mr. Ge’s death represents a totally failure on the part of the GeoGroup and the DHS.”

Seems like everyone is playing along with the claim of suicide while trying to get the details from DHS/GeoGroup.

[-] Triumph@fedia.io 32 points 2 months ago

We are all on crazy pills on this glorious day.

[-] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 months ago

That's how it's done in the United Soviet States of America.

[-] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 months ago

Easy on the "United".

[-] jdredbeard@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

It's the same sense that Epstein "committed suicide."

A lot of people seem to "commit suicide" who were inconvenient to this Admin

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The "nothing ever happens" crowd is doing their best to ensure that, while everything happens, you remain passively accepting of it.

We can round up people into death camps while our president has clearly raped children. Just as long as you keep going to work and "feeling crazy" thinking no one cares.

The place you won't feel crazy is around other like minded people that ARE doing something. If you're not working with a group like DSA, PSL, Mutual Aid groups, or hell, even your local anarchist group, you should be.

If you feel crazy it's because you are for not doing anything. There is nothing crazy about what is happening to this country. It is textbook fascism mixed with the non action of liberals pretending to be the opposition to it. And that right now comes in the form of "pointing at bad thing" to give you a false sense of security in your inaction.

Even the comments here are filled with it. The doomerism that keeps us all from acting.

[-] Elgenzay@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 months ago

Shot himself in the head 4 times

[-] GlassHalfHopeful@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 months ago

I literally just copied the same exact passage intending to ask the same question here. I'm not understanding how this is feasible.

This is absolutely tragic, regardless of the answer. But... how is this even possible?

[-] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Ever heard of Occam's razor?

[-] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 months ago

Yes. I've also heard of Hanlons razor. Just because a philosophical concept exists doesn't mean it's universally applicable.

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[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 85 points 2 months ago

Why is the media not questioning this?

[-] village604@adultswim.fan 56 points 2 months ago

Because they're owned by the billionaires who support this

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[-] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago
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[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 76 points 2 months ago

ICE is a terrorist organization

[-] anugeshtu@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Maybe they should call themselves ICES

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[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 61 points 2 months ago

Does anyone have a list of all ICE detention facilities?

Not for any particular reason. Definitely not to see if anything can be done to free the victims.

Definitely not so that international efforts could help coordinate the rescue of the victims.

[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

Speaking hypothetically, i think adresses of members would be more useful.

[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Problem I have with that, is that ICE personell can be replaced easier than ICE facilities.

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

If a 4 goon squad kicks in a door and 2 or 3 come out alive after meeting a 12 gauge, eventually they’re gonna have to try a lot harder to recruit.

Problem is, that tipping point means immediate bloodshed all over. I honestly don’t know of any other way to beat a Nazi than with a bullet to the head.

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[-] P1nkman@lemmy.world 54 points 2 months ago

What's next? "Decapitated limbs found 100 feet apart, with the head in the center on a pentagram. Ruled as suicide."

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[-] tgirlschierke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 46 points 2 months ago

Oh, a lynching.

[-] BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago

So are we calling this a prison murder or a state sanctioned assassination?

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 17 points 2 months ago

Obviously it will be ruled as a suicide.

[-] TheMinister@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago

The insane part is, as stated in the article, even the family’s attorney is saying “how could you let someone get out of their cell, and tie three separate noses to hang themselves?”

What in the fuck, how is his not automatically determined to be foul play? NOT EVEN BY THE ATTONREY SUING THE DHS

[-] lando55@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago

Sprinkle some crack on him to be sure

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[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 37 points 2 months ago
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[-] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago

What the fuck will it take for people stand up and say no more. What has happened to this country. This is inhumane, what was his crime, just existing and trying to make his life better

[-] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

He was accused of accessing a device issued to another who did not authorize its use, conspiracy – accessing a device issued to another who did not authorize use, theft by deception—false impression, conspiracy—theft by deception, criminal use of a communication facility, and unlawful use of a computer—access to disrupt function.

Uhh are we sure a different agency didn't perhaps target him for arrest bc they thought he was a spy, and then murder him while in custody? This doesn't seem like run of the mill trumped up ice bullshit.

Not that they wouldn't torture and murder somebody, but this seems a bit more professional than I would expect CBP to pull off. Especially if it's true he didn't have any defensive marks.

Never really thought about how easy it might be to sprinkle in a few government trained assassins in the chaos of every new batch of rushed ice recruits. Like if you had already been keeping people on a DHS watchlist for decades beforehand, this could be an easy way to detain them without drawing attention.

An autopsy report seen by Newsweek showed Ge was found tied with a bedsheet, with linens around his wrists and ankles in what the report described as a "hog-tied" position. The medical examiner noted that there had been other reported incidents of people who had hung themselves having done something similar, and that there were no obvious defense wounds.

Other reports of people hog tying themselves? To commit suicide?

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[-] Sunshine@piefed.ca 24 points 2 months ago

Could be your next Canadian or European tourist.

[-] Routhinator@startrek.website 9 points 2 months ago

Hence why Canadians are ceasing to travel to the US in record numbers and that has not recovered at all.

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[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 20 points 2 months ago

He's found hog-tied and hanging, and it's declared a suicide?

It also said that several others have died in a similar manner.

How does someone who is hog-tied commit suicide? And how does it get to be a common method of suicide?

The more likely scenario is that they tie up people in this manner for some reason (torture, punishment, entertainment) and if they die, they report it as suicide, and nobody questions it.

[-] yakko@feddit.uk 10 points 2 months ago

The point of this sort of overt evil is to get caught, and get away with it anyway. It's a display of power.

[-] gdog05@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

This reminds of Ellen Greenburg in 2011. True Crime Garage podcast is talking about in their current episodes. 20 stab wounds the authorities are claiming were self-inflicted.

[-] AliSaket@mander.xyz 15 points 2 months ago

In some places in the world, some people seem to get incredibly clumsy when they're near open windows. In others, they have very guilty consciences to the point of killing themselves.

\s for clarity

[-] cabillaud@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago
[-] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

US civil rights in its current state right now = near zero.

Fucking state sponsored lynching

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Why is everyone ignoring the possibility that that he was an illusionist?

This man was obviously performing escape magic and failed during the final death defying illusion.

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