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submitted 3 months ago by HarryLime@hexbear.net to c/slop@hexbear.net

I realize posting Contrapoints is almost too easy at this point, but this is just too much

https://xcancel.com/ContraPoints/status/1986532693962527027

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[-] Keld@hexbear.net 118 points 3 months ago

Half the democratic party either refused to support mamdani or supported a third party candidate against the democratic nominee just to not concede anything to the left wing of their base Why is she such a liar?

[-] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 87 points 3 months ago

Why is she such a liar?

Class position and material interests.

[-] ConcreteHalloween@hexbear.net 40 points 3 months ago

There's more successful streamers/tubers than her who have better political inclinations. So idk if this is PURELY about status for her, I think she's also just a coward who years for neoliberal stability.

[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 21 points 3 months ago

Yeah, more successful streamers like Hasan "What's a little swastika tattoo between comrades?" "Lenin would run as a Democrat" Piker

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[-] Carl@hexbear.net 20 points 3 months ago

I think Contra gets it extra because for a time we all assumed that she was further left than she was because she was making content about the alt right, critiquing it from the left. There was a similar phenomenon around Destiny when he went on his anti alt right arc, and I would even draw a comparison to the support behind AOC.

None of these people were ever lefties, but their position made many people think they were, in part through motivated reasoning because people really wanted them to be.

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[-] Keld@hexbear.net 86 points 3 months ago

Wait i just looked it up and BILL CLINTON ENDORSED CUOMO.

[-] lil_tank@hexbear.net 34 points 3 months ago

Couple goals

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 72 points 3 months ago

hillary would back hitler to keep haiti textile wages low sooooo

[-] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 69 points 3 months ago

Didn't her campaign literally boost trump in the primary?

[-] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 39 points 3 months ago

Yes re: pied piper memo. The best a liberal could say to defend is "there's no proof they DID IT." But like yes they had an overt plan to boost one of a number of extremists in the gop primary so that she'd have a % higher chance of winning and trump just happened to get billions in free tv coverage

[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 30 points 3 months ago
[-] MaxOS@hexbear.net 66 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Liberals jumping on the Mamdani hype train now as if they didn't spend the last decade waging war against socdems.

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[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 60 points 3 months ago

Honduran President, Manuel Zelaya came from a wealthy, land-owning background, was elected as a traditional neoliberal in 2006, and then shifted toward the political left during his presidency.

During his term (2006-2009), Zelaya surprised many of his traditional elite supporters by shifting toward left-of-center policies. This included increasing the minimum wage by 80%, providing subsidies to small farmers, and aligning Honduras with the Bolivarian Alliance for the Americas (ALBA), an organization promoted by Venezuela's then-leftist President Hugo Chávez. This shift lost him the support of the Honduran business elites, the military, the judiciary, and many members of his own party.

On June 28, 2009, the Honduran military stormed the presidential palace, arrested President Zelaya (reportedly while he was still in his pajamas), and forcibly exiled him by putting him on a plane to Costa Rica. The Honduran Congress then officially voted to remove him from office and installed the head of Congress, Roberto Micheletti, as the interim president. Much of the international community, including the UN and the OAS, condemned it as a military coup.

Immediately following the coup, the Obama administration, including Secretary Clinton, publicly condemned the ouster of Zelaya. Over the following days, the U.S. position began to shift from demanding Zelaya's unconditional return to holding new elections.

Clinton helped organize elections where Zelaya and his supporters would be excluded. In her own words, she "strategized on a plan to restore order in Honduras and ensure that free and fair elections could be held quickly and legitimately, which would render the question of Zelaya moot".

Emails released later show that the 2009 removal was supported by Hillary Clinton's State Department by not recognizing it as coup in order to maintain U.S. aid to the Honduran people. Clinton and her team worked behind the scenes to stall military and economic efforts by Brazil, Argentina, Venezuela and Chile through the Organization of American States to restore Manuel Zelaya to office. "The OAS meeting today turned into a non-event — just as we hoped," wrote one senior State Department official, celebrating their success in defusing what they judged would have been a violent or destabilizing restoration.

The violence that followed the coup also led to a long-term increase in the country's murder rate, with a significant number of deaths occurring in the following years due to factors like political violence against activists and increased organized crime. Violence against LGBT people escalated significantly after the coup. Between 2009 and 2016, 229 LGBT people were murdered, a sharp increase compared to previous years.

[-] blunder@hexbear.net 23 points 3 months ago

powercry-2 "but what about her emails!"

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[-] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 57 points 3 months ago

Why does she keep promoting Killary?

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 63 points 3 months ago

I kinda feel like she's just purposely ragebaiting at this point. She doesn't have anything actually meaningful to say, so that's all she can do to get people outside of her circle of sycophants to give her attention.

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 27 points 3 months ago

She has very little to gain from recycling the same criticisms of the (formerly alt) right, it's all tired now. So she can only punch left and double down on being The Adult In The Room.

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[-] CommunistCuddlefish@hexbear.net 53 points 3 months ago

Ok post, but I'm sorry HarryLime, I'm going to have to dock you a couple Hexbearian Social Credit Score Points because you did not use the Party-Approved Maoist Standard English spelling of her name, KKKontrapointSS.

[-] HarryLime@hexbear.net 25 points 3 months ago
[-] miz@hexbear.net 22 points 3 months ago

if you clear the leaves out of my yard I will get those points credited back to you. I know some guys

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[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 49 points 3 months ago

Hillary would back Stalin to stop Trump

My sister in Christ, Hillary wouldn't even back Bernie Sanders to stop Trump.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 48 points 3 months ago

That's very funny coming from the people who did back countless fascists to stop countless communists

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 22 points 3 months ago

And then had to back the communists anyway because the fascists didn't stop at Poland.

Honestly, though, I think today's liberals would be unable to do what Churchill and FDR did. They'd get themselves killed as they'd be devout adherents to Appeasement, even while standing in line for the gas chambers. Today's liberals don't even understand how capitalism actually works. This is unlike their predecessors, who realized they'd have to cannibalize the Axis Powers while giving concessions to the working class.

[-] godlessworm@hexbear.net 44 points 3 months ago

she is so cringe omg. learn to quit when you’re ahead 😔

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 43 points 3 months ago
[-] godlessworm@hexbear.net 26 points 3 months ago

she could have disappeared into obscurity when people felt bad bill was fucking around on her

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[-] booty@hexbear.net 25 points 3 months ago

She's a rich powerful old white american lady, the only thing she could've lucked into to be more ahead by default in life was to be born a man

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[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 22 points 3 months ago

She would have to get a real job then

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[-] Texas_Instruments_TI_69@hexbear.net 40 points 3 months ago

Hillary would back trump to stop hillary

[-] BadTakesHaver@hexbear.net 39 points 3 months ago

Acting like the dem playbook here will not be to co-opt and defang all of Zohrans messaging and then sabotage him at every turn

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 22 points 3 months ago

Yeah, I read theory

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[-] miz@hexbear.net 39 points 3 months ago

contrapoints doesn't give a fuck about genocide so I don't give a fuck what contrapoints has to say

[-] D61@hexbear.net 36 points 3 months ago

If ONLY the Democratic party could muster the self preservation instinct to be as opportunistic as Natilie's tweet is suggesting, maybe... just MAYBE... there'd be some hope that liberals could be useful at that level of political power against all the bad shit they've only so happily walked us all in to.

[-] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 36 points 3 months ago

Tweets (after they can no longer influence the outcome of an event, mind you) outweigh a decades long history of evidence to the contrary.

[-] into_highest_invite@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 3 months ago

the liberal position is "all politicians 100% of the time are liars except if it's rhetorically useful to me at this moment"

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 35 points 3 months ago

last time libs did something like that they immediately followed it up with the cold war

[-] Hestia@hexbear.net 34 points 3 months ago

I want to see Contrapoints and Bad Empanada get together. Not because I think they’d be a good couple but because they deserve each other.

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[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 29 points 3 months ago

Forgive us for assuming its insincere considering it would be the first sincere thing she has ever said.

[-] Esoteir@hexbear.net 26 points 3 months ago

hillary clinton... welcome to the resistance

[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 26 points 3 months ago
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[-] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 30 points 3 months ago

she's the synthesis of her husband and Margaret Thatcher. Sometimes she wonders if there's anything of herself in there

[-] alexei_1917@hexbear.net 23 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Tbf, the last time fascism was on the rise...

Yeah, coming from someone living far too close to a border with that failing state, we need Stalin right now. Anyone got a Red Phone to the DPRK to put in a request for some Juche Necromancy? We promise we'll let him retire after the threat is handled this time, we just need a good General Secretary's leadership to oust a fascist. We'll let him rest again after.

[-] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 22 points 3 months ago

Whenever I hear about ContraWorms it's always some nonsense like this. brainworms

[-] MaxOS@hexbear.net 21 points 3 months ago

Hillary should have backed bernie to stop trump

[-] BabyTurtles@hexbear.net 20 points 3 months ago

Killary in her "hello fellow populists" arc.

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