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There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update is here.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 years ago (4 children)

According to the Finnish government an "external actor" has sabotaged a gas pipeline and a communications cable between Finland and Estonia.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Nearing 700 posts in less than 24 hours.

This is gonna be an incredible week.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Senior Iraqi political figure threatens to target U.S. interests if it backs Israel

"If they intervene, we would intervene...if the Americans intervened openly in this conflict...we will consider all American targets legitimate … and we will not hesitate to target it," al-Amiri said during a tribal gathering in Baghdad on Monday night.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

💬 Statement by 🟢 #Hamas regarding the allegations of targetting children:

In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.

The Palestinian resistance does not target children, and Western media outlets must ensure accuracy and not blindly side with the zionist narrative filled with lies and slanders.

We, in the Islamic Resistance Movement Hamas, firmly deny the fabricated allegations promoted by some Western media outlets, which unprofessionally adopt the zionist narrative full of lies and slanders against our Palestinian people and their resistance. The latest of these was the claim of killing children, beheading them, and targeting civilians. We consider this adoption and bias towards the zionist narrative without verification as nothing but a media downfall in an attempt to cover up the crimes of the occupation and its massacres committed day and night in Gaza.

These actions amount to war crimes and genocide by targeting civilians, cutting off electricity, water, food, and medical supplies.

The Palestinian resistance and Al-Qassam Brigades targeted the zionist military and security system in the Al-Aqsa Storm battle, which are legitimate targets. At the same time, they aimed to avoid civilians. Many field video clips witnessed this, and many settlers spoke about it with documented testimoniesthrough the media.

The biased Western media outlets, which favor the zionist narrative, failed to mention the extent of zionist criminality against our people in the Gaza Strip, which completely wiped out entire neighborhoods, bombed residential buildings over the heads of their residents, leading to the killing of 950 Palestinian civilians so far, including 260 children and 230 women, all killed without prior warning.

This zionist crime can only be described as genocide and war crimes. We, therefore, call on these Western media outlets to be objective and professional in reporting and covering the events of the zionist aggression and not to blatantly and blindly adopt the zionist narrative.

Islamic Resistance Movement – Hamas

Wednesday: 26 Rabi' al-Awwal 1445 AH

Corresponding to: October 11, 2023

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The empire is crumbling and boy are we dancing in the rubble

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

http://kcna.kp/en/article/q/4064760de4a6f2a19390c74c1d09caeb.kcmsf

Pyongyang accused Japan of preparing to invade DPRK.

Military expenditures that break records every year, armament with offensive, state-of-the-art military equipment, including an aircraft carrier and the latest stealth fighters, and the completion of military operational training in the fields of space, cyberspace, electromagnetic waves are all aimed at preparing for the conduct of aggressive war,

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If youre Mossad you can gather intelligence about an uprising in Gaza or you can do coke in Dubai with Jeb Bush, Zelensky and like 9 guys from the Epstein flight logs. Capitalism does not produce people capable of resisting that temptation.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

Iraqi parliament urges activation of Arab Defense Treaty against Israel

🔶️ During a Saturday session on the Israeli aggression against Gaza, Iraqi lawmakers condemned the “brutal practices and crimes committed by the Zionist occupation forces against the Palestinian people,” according to a statement released after the session.

🔶️ The Iraqi legislators also called for efforts to “activate the League’s Charter considering that any attack on a member is an attack on the Arab countries, activate the Joint Arab Defense Treaty, and address the free world to stand by the Palestinian people, in addition to calling on the United Nations to prevent the killing and deportation of the Palestinian people.”

https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2023/10/15/712767/Iraq-Palestine-Israel-Gaza

A lot of people here wanted to know how troops would get from Iran past Iraq. Here's your answer.

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/arabjoin.asp

Article 2

The Contracting States consider any [act of] armed aggression made against any one or more of them or their armed forces, to be directed against them all. Therefore, in accordance with the right of self-defense, individually and collectively, they undertake to go without delay to the aid of the State or States against which such an act of aggression is made, and immediately to take, individually and collectively, all steps available, including the use of armed force, to repel the aggression and restore security and peace. In conformity with Article 6 of the Arab League Pact and Article 51 of the United Nations Charter, the Arab League Council and U. N. Security Council shall be notified of such act of aggression and the means and procedure taken to check it.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Just wanted to pop in and say I haven't posted for a few months due to some pretty miserable personal issues, but have been lurking the megathread just to stay sane as the rest of my society cheers on a genocide.

Keep it up comrades, it's appreciated.

Long live Palestine! 🇵🇸

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 years ago (12 children)

I'm not even sure how I ended up here. One minute I was disproving some factually incorrect lib takes about China on Reddit (and got banned from r/worldnews for citing actual data, I guess), then I started following the Ukraine conflict and wondering why the news stories went from "OORAH we're pushing to the sea by the winter" to "oh look at me we took another tree line but the Russians are definitely still losing more men despite being in a defensive position against, at best, an equal attacker," then somehow I ended up on Lemmy where people were posting more demonstrably and factually incorrect comments, and now this Palestine conflict just has American media lying through their teeth.

Were things just better in Canadian media because Canadians don't care as much about foreign affairs (we have no influence anyway and propagandizing us is sort of uselesss)? Has American media always been this bad? Is it just conflict-driven propaganda? Chinese online communities aren't this one-sided, either. Is something just wrong with America?

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 years ago (7 children)

lets get the news mega to 6k comments soon, because i think its slowly killing the site right now

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 years ago (2 children)

ONWARD TO 6000 COMRADES! MOSCOW IS BEHIND US!

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Norman Finkelstein

Chaim Rumkowski was a Jewish collaborator with the Nazis during World War II. Known as "King Chaim," Rumkowski accumulated massive wealth and power in the Lodz ghetto as he presided over the deportation of Lodz Jews to the death camps.

He harbored the conceit that he himself would be spared. But King Chaim was wrong. Here's how Wikipedia describes his ending:

In August 1944, Rumkowski and his family joined the last transport to Auschwitz, and he was murdered there on August 28, 1944, by Jewish Sondercommanado inmates who beat him to death as revenge for his role in the Holocaust.

I was reminded of this episode in Jewish history when it was reported this morning that "King Mehdi" Hasan was suspended from MSNBC for being a Muslim.

Context: MSNBC suspends Muslim anchors amid Israeli war in Gaza; Arab News sources confirm reports that US network sidelined Mehdi Hasan

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Jordan: The forceful displacement of Palestinians from Gaza by Israel is a red line for us, and we will not let this happen

Also: https://fxtwitter.com/AJABreaking/status/1713605270172000327

King of of Jordan Abdullah II: Any attempt to forcibly displace Palestinians is a violation of international law and threatens disastrous effects on the countries of the region.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Reuters quoting Israel's representative to the United Nations: Israel is cutting ties with United Nations Coordinator Tor Wensland until he condemns Iran's activity against the State of Israel

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 years ago (7 children)

From the resistance telegram!!!

🚨 Iranian Foreign Minister Abdollahian:

Iran cannot remain idle in the face of this situation. During my presence in Lebanon, Hassan Nasrallah confirmed to me that all scenarios are on the table.

We have informed the zionist entity through its supporters that if its crimes in Gaza do not stop, tomorrow will be too late.

Hezbollah has identified all the red lines and will take appropriate measures at each stage.

I say to the zionists, if you want war, fight the militants, not women and children.

The resistance is unwilling to give up the [military] prisoners but the civilian captives are on the table [for negotiation].

Interesting tidbits. If this isn’t a translation error, is it saying what I think it means? They’re saying tomorrow is the deadline for them to stop the indiscriminate bombing? Also, wonder what they plan to keep the military prisoners for, hope the civilians can be brought to safety and not just get murdered by the IOF.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

The TrueAnon sub going private during this is so cowardly. Fed-run sub vibes.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 years ago (4 children)

On the one hand, if the U.S. navy gets involved, that really would not bode well for the resistance. On the other, what can they do really that idf can’t accomplish already with its own genocide equipment (albeit less effectively) Ground war is gonna be a slog regardless. On yet another hand, if somehow a carrier gets hit… that would really be something.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 years ago

Resistance Bloc Member of Parliament Hassan Fadlallah:

We are prepared for all eventualities, but we will not reveal to the enemy our next steps. The actions of the Lebanese resistance are related in part to national defense, but also part of the ongoing battle in Gaza. The Lebanese resistance understands well its duty, and what it must undertake in the context of the major battle taking place in Gaza. Neither the people, the fighters nor the leadership of the resistance pay any heed to the threats and pressures of the Americans. We are in the heart of this battle. Our position is precisely calculated, and takes into account all scenarios and possibilities. The situation is developing rapidly, and while the enemy knows how to begin battles, he cannot know where they will end.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fuck.

Gaza awakes to chaos under evacuation order that some are calling impossible | AP News

Residents in northern Gaza awoke to panic Friday after its 1.1 million residents, including hundreds of thousands in Gaza City, were ordered to evacuate south.

“This is chaos, no one understands what to do,” said Inas Hamdan, an officer at the United Nations’ Palestinian refugee agency in Gaza City while she grabbed whatever she could throw into her bags amid the panicked shouts of her relatives. She said all the U.N. staff in Gaza City and northern Gaza had been told to evacuate south to Rafah.

“Forget about food, forget about electricity, forget about fuel, the only concern now is just if you’ll make it, if you’re going to live,” Nebal Farsakh, spokesperson for the Palestinian Red Crescent in Gaza City said, breaking into heaving sobs. She said there was no possible way that 1.2 million people could be safely evacuated.

Imad Abu Alaa, U.N. Palestinian refugee agency officer in charge of shelters in northern Gaza, echoed that there were too many people to evacuate on too short notice for it to work. “What about U.N. shelters? We’re talking about civilians. Suddenly that doesn’t even matter?” he said.

Farsakh said there are hospital patients who cannot be moved under the current conditions, and many of the medics were refusing to leave and abandon their patients. Instead, she said, they called their colleagues to say goodbye.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 years ago (4 children)

if someone IRL tries to convince me the 40 beheaded babies are real I am only going to refer to them as the babies thrown from the incubator by Saddam Hussein

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 years ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 years ago

One of the pigs who murdered Elijah Mclain was sentenced to day. Apparently he was negligent in his commission of homicide. Redditors talking about it helpfully reminded me that kkkrackers in this country are bootlicking scum.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 years ago (4 children)

IDF wounded a journalist in their shelling of Lebanon

https://streamable.com/isl3i8

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (10 children)

The “Israeli” army announces that an air force warplane was hit by an anti-tank missile fired by Hamas fighters.

Massive salvo of rockets targeted occupied Beershaba and Askalan

Successful Resistance infiltration operation from Gaza to Ashkol occupation settlement. Heavy confrontations ongoing with israeli forces inside the settlement

Sounds like a counterattack is underway

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 years ago (3 children)

There’s currently more times I’m hearing a bomb on the live stream than not. Also those flashes are way bigger and brighter than other nights. Genociders.

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