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The Norman Conquest of England (1066-71) was led by William the Conqueror who defeated King Harold II at the Battle of Hastings in 1066. The Anglo-Saxon elite lost power as William redistributed land to his fellow Normans. Crowned William I of England (r. 1066-1087) on Christmas Day, the new order would take five years to fully control England.

Following Harold’s death at Hastings, William was obliged to see off several major invasions and rebellions, but once established, Norman England would witness profound changes in all areas of society. These changes included a restructuring of the Church, innovations in military and religious architecture, the evolution of the English language, the spread of feudalism and a much greater contact with continental Europe, especially France.

The Claims On the English Crown

In 1066 when the Norman invasion began, the king of England was Harold II, formerly Harold Godwinson, Earl of Wessex. William, Duke of Normandy (r. from 1035), centred his claim on his relationship with Harold's predecessor, Edward the Confessor (r. 1042-1066) who was a distant relation. William also claimed that the English king, without children of his own, had once promised the Norman he would be Edward's successor.

Such was the scale of William's preparations in the summer of 1066, Harold knew full well what was coming and he gathered an army to await the Norman's dreaded arrival. the third claimant to the English throne then chose his moment to enter the complex political drama.

Harald Hardrada was the king of Norway. Like William, Hardrada was prepared to press his claim through force, and he amassed an invasion fleet which sailed to England in September 1066. Harold faced the impossible situation of two invasions in the opposite parts of his kingdom at exactly the same time.

Battle of Hastings

Hardrada's invasion was initially successful against an Anglo-Saxon army, led by two inexperienced English earls, at the Battle of Fulford Gate near York on 20 September. Then Harold marched a second army northwards and won a decisive victory at the Battle of Stamford Bridge, also near York, five days later, in which Hardrada was killed along with his ally, Harold's traitorous brother Tostig. Next, on 28 September, William and his invasion army landed at Pevensey in Sussex, southern England. Harold had little option but to march back to the south and do battle for a second time, speed being of the essence as the Normans had already begun torching pockets of south-east England.

The two armies, likely numbering around 5,000 men each, faced off at Hastings on 14 October. The Anglo-Saxon army was largely composed of infantry, with the elite being the king's housecarls (huscarls) who wore chain armour and wielded huge axes. The Normans and their French allies, in contrast, had a significant number of archers, probably a unit of crossbowmen, and at least 1,000 cavalry.

Eventually, the cavalry was successful in breaking up the Anglo-Saxon 'shield-wall' formation and, when Harold and his two brothers were killed, William's victory was assured. The English king, at least according to tradition, was felled by an arrow to his eye, and then he was hacked to pieces as he lay prone on the ground. It was a great victory for William, who rested his men and then prepared to continue his invasion by subduing the south-east of England and taking London.

William's March on London

The great city of London was one of William's priorities but it was protected both by the River Thames from the south and by the fact the only crossing point was an easily defended fortified bridge. In the event, William's successes elsewhere and the lack of a significant army after the loss at Hastings saw the remaining Anglo-Saxon nobles and their figurehead Edgar Ætheling, great-nephew of Edward the Confessor (r. 1042-1066), surrender the city and the kingdom without a fight.

The victorious Norman duke was crowned William I of England on Christmas Day 1066 in Westminster Abbey, bringing an end to 500 years of Anglo-Saxon rule.

Impact of the Conquest

The most immediate impact was seen in the almost total replacement of the Anglo-Saxon ruling and landowning elite by a much smaller number of Normans, all given estates and titles by William. This dramatic changeover of ownership is starkly revealed in William's 1086-7 Domesday Book. A knock-on effect of this policy was the further development of the system of feudalism, that is the giving of lands (fiefs) to a lord (vassal) who promised his king military service (either in person or by paying knights or both). With this policy, the system of manorialism also evolved to become much more widespread. That is free and unfree (serf or villein) labour was used to work the land for the owner's profit.

Although there was no great population movement from Normandy to England, ordinary people would have witnessed first hand this changeover of the elite, even if some Anglo-Saxon tools of governance like sheriffs did continue.

French was heard everywhere, and the language had a lasting influence on English syntax and vocabulary. Finally, as Norman lords, like William himself, often kept their own lands back home, the politics, economics, and cultures of the two countries became intertwined with sometimes drastic consequences in the coming centuries.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (3 children)

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (4 children)

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (3 children)

It blows my mind that there are people in the USA who live almost 1000 miles from an ocean and a sizeable chunk of the population will never see the ocean in their lives.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (4 children)

stuff the man in question is John Brown of abolitionist fame

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (3 children)

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I've been watching through Star Wars The Clone Wars to fill in some more backstory while watching Ahsoka. Just watched S2E05 and I was just like jesus-christ the whole time with all the depiction of war. Ain't this a kids show? lol "Bring up the flamethrowers", against the Geonosian bug people. 😟

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Clone Wars is probably for like late teens, but it feels like it has no idea what the intended audience age is most of the time

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Anyone else here have trouble getting up on days off from work and feel tired, lost, unorganized on those days? Probably a series of compounding factors and not the work itself, but it's really fucking my life over. Also probably depression being allowed to settle in on days where I'm not being bossed around by external forces -- I don't know. On my work days I'm mentally acute most of the day but physically tired by the end of it so I can't do much. On my days off I should be physically fine but my mind feels completely bogged down and I can't organize my time at all, usually end up wasting time on the internet or napping.

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