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The goal is suffering (discuss.online)
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[-] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

'The land of the free' has one of the highest incarciration rates world wide (source). It must be exceptionally safe around there, no?

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Well, I'm sure a human domicile would be a bit more robust than "alligator Alcatraz" so instead of 8 days, it might take more like.... 8 weeks? To build something comparable for the homeless?

Depending on how complex each housing unit is (bathrooms/kitchens/whatever) possibly more or less. Idk.

But knowing that the world runs on capitalist dollars, there's no profit in it. They can't pay rent, they don't have any money, and they would actively cost you money, either in property tax, water, power, and/or food... Not to mention any replacement costs for any fixtures or furniture that's damaged/stolen.

Not saying the unhoused are thieves, but a nontrivial number of them are desperate, and desperate people do things that they otherwise wouldn't consider doing.

In any case, the solution to the homeless "problem" (being that people are homeless at all) is not just housing, but also community services to get any drug users into their respective rehabilitation programs, and anyone willing and able to work, into job placements... Mental health services...

All of these things cost money and don't yield any profits, so I understand why they're not done. That doesn't mean I'm ok with it not being done, it's a shame that we've left a portion of the population to fend for themselves on the streets and we almost universally dehumanize them as less than a person because they're homeless. They're people. We should take care of them because they're people.

No child left behind, but anyone post highschool that's living on the streets, fuck them.... I guess.

[-] [email protected] 239 points 2 days ago

"The director tells me it could have been done in 72 hours if we were allowed to make it even more inhumane / unsafe"

Fixed that for you.

[-] [email protected] 61 points 2 days ago

Don't forget to make the working conditions inhumane and unsafe for the workers building the place! That could probably shave off a few hours, too!

[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Built by and built for it's occupants planned occupants I bet :/

Edit: Its not it's (and autocorrect tried to correct me again)

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Honestly, if you build or work at a place like this, you deserve to die. If you're a guard at a concentration camp, I hope you die quickly. You don't deserve to live.

[-] [email protected] 67 points 2 days ago

Daily reminder to all ICE agents. By signing up for ICE, you have signed yourself up for a lifetime of fear and criminal liability. There are Nazi concentration camp guards that were tried for their crimes in their 90s. There is no statute of limitations on crimes against humanity. Your names are recorded; your deeds are known. And you will face justice for your crimes.

I want every Democratic politician to be repeating this every chance they get, a modern day "Carthage must be destroyed." My greatest fear is that when this is done, and Democrats are eventually back in power, that they will fall back on the same suicidal tendencies that got us here in the first place. Obama came into power on the back of the criminal Bush administration, and his first act of office was to declare "it's time to move on," and to announce that no members of the prior regime would be prosecuted. And Biden did the same after the first Trump term. We need to be willing to hold people accountable. And we need to be talking about this now. We need to fully embrace the idea of prosecuting ICE agents for their crimes against humanity. We cannot declare it's time to move on and to let them get away with what they have done.

And no, "I'm just following orders" is not an excuse. Anyone who says that deserves to hang.

[-] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago

This needs to be (if it isn't already) a copypasta that finds its way onto every post and comment board concerning ICE and the current administration's barbarous acts towards people who's only crime was not being a white person who was born here.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

I suppose I should add to this, "and do not count on a blanket pardon saving you. Crimes against humanity are violations of international law that cannot be pardoned."

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

the nuremberg trials were a joke. only 22 people were tried and it was more of a political show to show to their own soldiers who fought hard that they were doing something about the nazis, while actually they abducted a lot of the scientists and made them work for themselves.

i wish there had been actually meaningful trials. but i guess the ruling class is never gonna punish itself.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah but in a country dumb enough to elect Donald Trump twice? And before that Joe Biden? Obama? Bush? TWICE. BOTH BUSHES. Maybe a bit harsh to throw Obama in there, because the other options were bleak too.

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[-] [email protected] 155 points 2 days ago

I'm sure plenty of homeless people will get to stay there 😊

[-] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago

God is Jesus all the time. Braise the Lord. Amen in the chat if you Jesus every day in the shower. 🙏

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm about to jesus my pants

[-] [email protected] 54 points 2 days ago

"Built a 3000 bed federal prison in eight days" almost sounds like they finally actually did something, until you realize:

  • The compound is located at the site of the Dade-Collier Training and Transition Airport, so there was already infrastructure
  • The area for detainees is a tent
  • Inside the tent is bunk beds, portapotties and a chain link fence

But yeah, I also would have preferred our government take care of the unhoused (or just done nothing at all) instead of... this.

[-] [email protected] 109 points 2 days ago

I'm so glad the yellow underline exists in this 60-word screenshot to tell me where I should pay attention. I don't think my poor, dystrophied zoomer brain could sit down for the average 15 seconds it would take otherwise.

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[-] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago

Wait I need my subway surfer footage

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

And a ton of auto-bad-generated subtitles bumping in the screen

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I'm helping

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[-] [email protected] 73 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's not that difficult to build a concentration camp with shitty cots, inadequate facilities, and hazardousness as a feature built in on nearly unlivable land in the Everglades.

It likely is slightly more difficult to build housing for homeless people unless you're trying to build death trap, concentration camp housing for them as well.

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[-] [email protected] 36 points 2 days ago

Haven’t seen it pointed out, yet, but it should be noted that a chain link fence and some tents are structures that have been completely toppled by far less than 3000 people many, MANY times. These are very fragile things they are building.

On an unrelated note, bolt cutters are not expensive and neither are ground bloomers, tape, and plyers.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

It's the surrounding Everglades that becomes the problem. But idk, I don't think I'd give a fuck vs staying there and dying from West Nile, flooding, heat stroke, hurricane, atrocities, etc... and with 3000 people, you have a much better chance

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

What's a "ground bloomer"?

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

I believe they call them "flowers".

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

oh of course, don't forget to always keep your safety flowers with yourself if you want to escape after being kidnapped

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

They have to survive the swamp and patrols though. Once escaped, then what? They can't get a job etc

[-] [email protected] 61 points 2 days ago

Provide unlivable caging, you mean. Homeless people don't deserve to be "housed" in something like this any more than undocumented immigrants do. The reason homeless housing takes money and time is that it's supposed to be humane, and put people where they can interact with the resources of the community. Alligators aren't NIMBYs, and the administration ignored environmentalist organizations that protested on their behalf.

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

The absurd irony of all these "Good Christians" testing the limits of their own religion's capacity to incarcerate hypocrites, liars, and golden idol worshipers in a hell they would certainly end up in after they die.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I don’t suppose anyone thought of humane conditions while building a concentration camp in a Florida swamp. Even prisoners deserve something to control the heat, the humidity, the mosquitoes, or were causing yet more needless deaths

And yes, employees overseeing obviously inhumane conditions should absolutely face justice for those illnesses and deaths

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

~~Even~~ Especially prisoners deserve something to control the heat.

part of the problem is that so many are OK with these concentration camps because they believe criminals deserve whatever happens to them in prison.

if people stopped indulging that false dichotomy between criminal and upstanding citizen, we might not be seeing such a large-scale kidnapping.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

the mosquitoes,

i suspect the fucking mosquitoes or whatever insects there will be will probably be worst.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

Sure, they can provide quick housing for the homeless... As long as your standards are "puppy mill" or "chicken farm".

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

There is no profit in sheltering the homeless. Those ICE camps are all the rage amongst investors ... particularly private equity firms. Private equity firms will do literal evil to make a few dollars.

[-] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago
[-] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago

Bastards and pieces of shit.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Housing the homeless: I sleep

Build a concentration camp: real shit

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This might be where they ship homeless people when they run out of immigrants

I haven't seen much mention of this but putting people in camps like this in south Florida is a very bad idea. WW1 veterans were housed in hastily constructed camps like this in 1935 in the Florida keys and many were killed by a powerful hurricane that rolled though. There is a reason for the strong building codes and tents do not meet them.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

fun fact: they're probably gonna put the homeless there anyways, as being poor is illegal in the US.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

Could probably be done even faster if it weren't for the cages around them

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

That's assuming IF there ever was a push to build things like this to help homeless they WOULDNT find a way to make it look as inhumane as possible.

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