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”Give him a follow, he’s going to go far.”

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[-] [email protected] 70 points 1 month ago

Four years ago, you say?

Okay it wasn’t his campaign, he and I were both working on a campaign for someone else. Still, absolutely bizarre feeling that I’ve sat and had a real, normal human conversation with the guy who’s likely to be the next mayor of NYC.

[-] [email protected] 42 points 1 month ago

People do not understand just how much he has ALWAYS been about this. He really is that guy and he deeply cares

[-] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ok I’ll be the dumbass to ask….how much is he hiding his power levels?

[-] [email protected] 51 points 1 month ago

He’s hiding them. His mayoral campaign specifically was not possible without real materialist analysis. We are living in an affordability crisis. You win by offering actual improving material conditions to the working class. We had a long chat about this

[-] [email protected] 42 points 1 month ago

The takeaway for American Hexbear might be that in order to do something meaningful you might need to get on stage and firmly declare that "I am your DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST candidate for [x]" like Zohran did. It's the proper materialist analystis ("socialism with burger characteristics" lol)

It's cracking me up to think about our users trying to do it but kinda throwing up in their mouths a little when they say the line. Or doing :lenin-shining: on the debate stage, and holding a "UNLIMITED GENOCIDE ON THE FIRST WORLD" deep in their chest while some ghoul is yapping at them. The tells would be so obvious to us watching haha, luckily it seems like Zohran is a true professional about it and maybe not as online-poisoned?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Bro I've already seen at least one comment somewhere hear calling us Dengist revisionists, if SWBC becomes a thing the infighting online will be hilarious

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Edited. it I'm tired and butchered my keyboard, meant Socialism with Burger Characteristics (SWBC) have no idea how I typed SBB

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Haha ok that's what I thought

And honestly Zohran is just about exactly what I expect socialism to look like in the imperial core at its best. The true revolution will happen in the periphery (eyes on West Africa at the moment), but if westerners can do a genuine Democratic Socialism, they can assist comrades at the periphery by directing resources inward instead of toward the military and such, and even where unsuccessful at that, they create internal strife which also inhibits the empire's ability to operate in opposition to the more substantial revolutions.

The US will probably be the last place to actually get Workers' control over the means of production, dragged to heel by the rest of the world who moved on a decade or two before.

Hope I'm wrong though! Looking forward to the struggle sessions as Zohran does stuff and other US cities oust their democratic establishment!

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I'm not expecting this to lead to much personally and I definitely feel the turn off for Israel right to exist maneuvering, but I also feel like things have been oddly aggressive in comparison to the grace China is given for similar waffling about with words as realpolitik instead of moral compromise. Suddenly swathes of people are finding themselves Maoists that I either didn't see before somehow or decided this was a step too far.

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[-] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

Hard to say, but I do think he’s hiding them a bit.

[-] [email protected] 51 points 1 month ago

I've been punched in the face by reality so many times recently that my take on Zohran becoming mayor of NYC is still "I'll believe it when I see it." Capital is not gonna give up without a fight and they've been fighting extremely dirty. Remember when Melenchon's left coalition won an election in France like 2 years ago and the centrists just said "No"?

That being said, even if they somehow ratfuck him and he doesn't become mayor, just winning this election is itself monumental and a huge achievement. It's undeniable proof that people want these kinds of politicians and that money isn't enough to win a campaign. Definitely something to be proud of.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

All the money and the most vile racist smears couldn't come close to stopping him.

I know its just one election (and I ain't a demsoc) but I hope I'll be forgiven if my revolutionary optimism is at a high.

[-] [email protected] 48 points 1 month ago

chris matthews, welcome to central park

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Promises were made! rage-cry

[-] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago

waow-based

Hopefully he doesn't go AOC on us.

[-] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

AOC as a mayor would have a far different set of powers and goals, and would be leagues better than what we’ve had in decades. Hard to compare the position she is in to that of mayor, and I think the majority of us here would like her a lot more if she had been a mayor this whole time.

That being said, Zohran will be a better mayor than she could be imo

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

And as the head of the executive branch in New York, Mamdani has more power in the municipal government than AOC in the federal government. Even if her head was once in the right place, she was doomed to get drowned out by the bloodthirsty establishment Dems. Mamdani has more ability to implement what he wants.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Nominally, he would be in charge of the NYPD, a paramilitary force with 40,000 armed goons. Obviously those goons are overwhelmingly fascists, and the institution as a whole cannot be reformed, but imagine simply not deploying the fucking riot squads and horse pigs the moment anti-genocide protesters pitch a tent on a college campus.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

I agree. AOC would have been better off and more effective staying in local politics but she also wouldn’t have had the national fame she’s currently enjoying.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

It’ll be better when she’s a senator or governor, I think

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Yeah, but I still get major socdem vibes from her. I don't see much in terms of true anti-capitalist, pro-socialist messaging.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Let her be the right wing of the government, is annoying that all the discourse centers on one person cause you pretty much have nobody else.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I don't think it matters how bad of a leftist AOC is when she's almost entirely alone in congress.

[-] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago

That's one hell of a called shot.

[-] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago

Please stay at the lathe

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

He just needs obama to hook him up with his birth certificate guy

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Fuck is he not a natural citizen? I didn't know. Fuck amerikkka

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

He was born in Uganda to Indian parents. He moved to NYC when he was 7 and became a citizen in 2018.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Is Trump gonna deport him?

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I mean...only time will tell

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Dont worry, after some years in exile he will return to lead the People's Liberation Army of NYC

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Bit idea: The Constitution doesn't define what "natural born" means. We should claim it means a natural birth as opposed to a C-section and cite Macbeth's "no man of woman born" thing

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I genuinely think he would have a shot. He has charisma I haven’t seen from any politician since Obama. All of the young people like this guy, TikTok has fallen for him

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

He was born in Uganda, though. He can't run for president

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Que You're Gonna Go Far Kid by The Offspring

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

In 2018 pre-election I was probably the biggest AOC shill lol

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That’s called growth, comrade.

I’ll still shill for AOC on occasion. She has a purpose in our movement whether we like it all of the time or not

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

FYI, Thiruvananthapuram is in India. I don't know why neither cared to mention that.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

It does say Kerala though

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

We’re communists etc. who have occasional little struggle sessions over Keralan politics. So, we largely know where Kerala is.

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

how do we get him a detachment of red volunteers

wait it's you isn't it. you're volunteers.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

The answer to your question, which I’ll get more into when I do a retrospective, is knowing we had NYC DSA in our proximity and would have enthusiastic people ready to do a lot of legwork for the campaign. It was a huge part of the calculus.

As for making them red volunteers, I bet quite a few would

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

yessss... now get red berets and steal that fit from the guardian angels

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

rat-salute nice work, congrats on the promotion to Cooler

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Forgotten passwords and such

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