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submitted 6 days ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

Holy fucking shit it's like talking to a brick wall. These people are seemingly incapable of understanding who "pirates" and why they "pirate". I keep trying to explain that if I were to make a game, I wouldn't give a damn if people pirate because I just want people to enjoy the game. If people can afford it, cool, share among your friends!

I swear to god these nerds can't understand the corpo isn't "losing revenue" when someone pirates. They either weren't going to buy the game anyway or someone is just trying it out...

These people are just corpo bootlickers catgirl-disgust

that's the post screm-a aaaah

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[-] [email protected] 62 points 6 days ago

Back when I still used Reddit I remember explaining piracy as the new model for replacing libraries in a society ruled by capital and it was one of my most downvoted posts

Like my basic argument was how the role of libraries is to provide access to various mediums of artistic expression and academic literature to give equitable access to these things because it’s important for the enrichment of society. Equitable access means the next generation of creators and academics have access to current works to learn from and for inspiration.

But with the entire videogame industry, academic journal publishing, increasingly music and movies (though many libraries work to make these available) we have huge swaths of things that are extremely relevant to the culture and to human understanding as a whole. But we’ve decided that equitable access to these things is simply not okay because fuck poor people

Bootlickers in those threads would downvote and would reply to this with like “but YOU don’t work so hard on developing things??”. First: I have written papers and I invite you to download them for free. Plenty of authors seem to do fine despite the existence of libraries. Your game will do fine. Or it won’t, and that’s probably because your shitty game sucks

So go on sci-hub, go on torrent sites, crack everything. Fuck the stupid assholes that cry about piracy because they are super concerned that their shitty indie game will have 10-30% pirated copies as their player base, most of which would never have actually bought the game, instead of crying about conglomerates like valve, google, and apple taking 30-40% of your actual revenue.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

How dare you suggest our piss stained libraries filled with AI generated books will be replaced by orc run website.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 6 days ago
[-] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago

Back when I still used Reddit I remember explaining piracy as the new model for replacing libraries in a society ruled by capital and it was one of my most downvoted posts

GOOD prediction lathe-of-heaven

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

They never valued the product, only the way they can keep it from others.

[-] [email protected] 39 points 6 days ago

real idiots, if im pirating something i wasn't going to buy it. piracy is more akin to sharing than stealing. and sharing is GOOD AND COOL, i learned that in kindergarten

[-] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

If I'm pirating something that means there's a chance (if its good) that it might become a piece of culture I identify with for the rest of my life. This is good for your brand. You can sell a CD once. You can sell a fan merch for the rest of their life. A CD is worthless compared to a plushie or a cool hat.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

I'm old enough to remember when it was expected that you'd let other people copy your games, and nobody really thought anything of it.

[-] [email protected] 36 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Piracy is basically free advertising for a game. It’s an extended full free trial and pirates join the community of the video game & promote the game through word of mouth. Even as a corpo i would recognize the benefits of video game piracy, given how attempts to prevent it like DRM only inadvertently piss off buyers and dissuade potential customers because of the performance hit. DRM is basically treating your entire fanbase as “criminals” (i dont think crackers are criminals i think they are the unsung heroes of the digital age)

Brand recognition is essential for buyers & for example if i had not had the experience of playing fallout 3 by downloading at 100kbps in 2012 as a kid, at a time when i couldnt even afford the game since i was living in a third world country, i would not have fallout 4 in my steam library!!

[-] [email protected] 34 points 6 days ago

i dont think crackers are criminals i think they are the unsung heroes of the digital age

cracker

[-] [email protected] 27 points 6 days ago
[-] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago

This one would be wild to read out of context

[-] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

they'd hate piracy even if it provably benefitted them because they don't control it

[-] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Tangential, but a bit back there was a sampler plug-in that got cracked. This was noteworthy both because the developer had bragged about how crack-proof, but also because the cracked version ran much faster and the sample library was way smaller.

The crackers revealed that not only was the plug-in software DRM protected, but that the company put DRM protection on every single audio file. Every 2-5 second file (mind you, with multi-samples that have different file sets for each velocity range, that means a lot of sample files) had its own DRM protection. Which meant people who got the cracked copy actually had a better-running product than those who paid for it.

The real kicker is the owner of the company got tilted by this. Not only did he throw out blanket threats of suing people who downloaded the cracked copy, he threatened to revoke the end user license for people who paid for the plug-in but then used the cracked sample library to get around the DRM overkill.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Oh interesting. What’s it called?

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[-] [email protected] 23 points 6 days ago

Where are my fellow 3rd worlders

Pirate everything 👍

[-] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago

Hell yeah! 👍👍👍

[-] [email protected] 23 points 6 days ago

I have never met a single real person who's against piracy. The most negative reaction I got from a real person is them more or less going, "imagine being a dirty poor who's too poor to pay for shit." It's consumerist snobbery, but even they didn't use some bullshit "but think of the corps." That's loser shit.

My conclusion is that "but think of the corps" found exclusively on R*ddit and R*ddit-adjacent spaces are paid shills. Absolutely nobody normal cares about piracy. It's like how R*ddit and other online spaces were filled with "aktually, you don't need the start menu" when Windows 8 dropped and how all those em-dollar sign shilling completely disappeared when Windows 8.1 brought back the start menu.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago

I get negative or at least uncomfortable reactions from people if I mention it in public. Like if we're talking about TV shows and they ask what streaming service something is on, I just say "oh, I don't know, I pirated it" and they just kind of go "oh..." and clearly think I just told them something highly illegal.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Really depends where you live. Back where mu family is from in the global South, it's pretty normal because no one can afford luxury entertainment items, but in the global north there is that kind of "consumerist snobbery" as AssortedBiscuits called it. It's getting less common every day now as things get more expensive.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

but in the global north there is that kind of "consumerist snobbery" as AssortedBiscuits called it. It's getting less common every day now as things get more expensive.

I think, too, it’s an indoctrination by the corpos and media that piracy is highly illegal and that you can get arrested for it. Some people I talked to see it like stealing from a store.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Tbf you actually get legally persecuted for piracy in several global north countries.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

I did at my work for a while. Now I'm the guy with a thumb drive who csn get anything you want, cause they still won't fucming learn the super easy shit themselves but it's cool cause I control what people watch now

[-] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago

i knew a church kid who reported rom sites back in the day.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago

I was arguing with a guy in real life who was saying that corporations being able to use non-compete agreements was a good thing. Every one of his points was essentially, "But what about X situation where corps will lose money?".

This guy is a gig worker struggling to survive but is deeply concerned with some corporation losing money.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago

meanwhile I literally just give people copies of my game if they ask lmao

[-] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)
[-] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago

But the yen is so weak now, indie devs like Nintendo are starving.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago

"We made record profit this year, we must increase base game prices to US$89.99 yes-honey-left "

[-] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago

I feel like I’ve always had a bit of leftist spirit in me even before reading socialist theory or whatever due to learning about how Activision screwed over the MW2 devs even though it was one of the fastest selling games of its time. Like how the fuck could you possibly want to support any video game corporation? I hope those buttholes lose revenue

[-] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago

you sayin activison screwed MW2 devs just reminded me that the FO:NV devs also got fucked cus the metacritic score was like 2 points below contractual obligations or someshit and i cant help but feel like bethesda put a thumb on that scale so they could fuck obsidian. I just dont buy AAA titles ever anymore, if it seems to my taste ill just steal it

[-] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

corpos would never, but studios like bethesda should commission a bunch of studios to do budget games in their engine as a farm for new ideas.

and then actually take the lessons instead of seeing new vegas and making dogshit like fallout 4 and starfield.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago

Tell them it’s no different than an AI learning from artists. After all, ideas are meant to be shared, right?

[-] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

I just clown on them with my ability to play "online required" drm games without any internet connected.

Can't play single player on your $80 AAA game because your internet is down? Too bad loser, should've just pirated it. Gonna be real interesting to see opinions on this in a few years as companies stop running their DRM servers for older games and they just outright don't work anymore like an old MMO.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

You gotta use the bazillion broken apps and launchers. I love the ea games app!

[-] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago

I think piracy is stealing but it's like fractions of a cent. The money isn't going to the laborers who make the products we enjoy while the majority of profits go to execs. The execs are stealing thousands (and sometimes millions) from their artists. Me stealing $0.000000007 of profit with thousands of people doing the same has more impact on the power grid than it does the livelihoods of creators. I'm doing more harm to their cell phone network than I am to their paycheck.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

"How dare you take a picture of my painting! I'm losing so much money every time you look at it!"

[-] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

If one doesn’t do it, fine. But how much of a dork do you have to be to care if other people do it? Daddy Ubisoft isn’t going to give you a pat on the back for it.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

They want to support small mom and pop devs like those of humble indie companies such as EA, Gamefreak or Ubisoft.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

I keep trying to explain that if I were to make a game, I wouldn't give a damn if people pirate because I just want people to enjoy the game.

Literally making a game right now, I would much rather people support it financially so it can actually get made rather than me needing to abandon it. That said, people have "pirated" the game by literally asking me directly for a download link, so I don't care that much. I feel like they're aware enough to know that if no one supports the project it won't succeed, so if they actively want the game to get finished, piracy is an obstacle to that.

Very Very small indie projects are probably the biggest exception though, where an extra $100 worth of sales could honestly mean the difference between success and failure. And even then, I'm not too fussed. If people pirate my stuff, it's because they don't want to pay for it anyway.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

I know several people who thought it was a “flex” to brag about how they actually pay for games and have never pirated like those “brokies”. The game that got them riled up was basically abandonware until recently being released and the pirated version was a version of the game that got turned into open source and was worked on for decades.

Truly brainwashed.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

I understand that you meant anti-game-piracy, but now I can't stop thinking about anti-game piracy.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

gamer-gulag pirates raiding the coastline, stealing gaming computers, and ransoming g*mers

[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

They still think game development is a still a worthwhile career SMH.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

Why do you put piracy in quotes? Just own it like I do, we play games we don't want to pay for

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