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[-] [email protected] 43 points 1 week ago

For me, Sci-Fi is about the hope of a better future. In those stories, people explore beyond our petty problems of the past.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Yeah I guess there's two different categories of sci-fi in this regard. Personally, I think stuff that's as far ahead in the future as Star Trek is pretty close to fantasy. But then there's also the Philip K. Dick style near future dystopian sci-fi that serves more as a warning about the future we're headed to (or instruction manual if you're a techbro CEO).

Fantasy is probably the same actually. I usually think happy thoughts if I think about fantasy as a genre but then there's also stuff like Game of Thrones.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Not much of that utopian sci fi around though.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I would also mention the Mars trilogy

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

There's some hopeful sci-fi on it's way soon with Starfleet Academy.

Mostly looking forward to the return of The Doc.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

At this point in our development, we are like new born babies .... in a few hundred or even a thousand years, we'll be like toddlers.

When you look back on our human evolution as a species, our first ancestors came about two million years ago, the ancestors that look like humans are about 100,000 years ago and the ones that would most closely resemble us and our way of thinking is about 50,000 years ago. We've only been technologically capable for the past 150 years. When you think about it, we are closer to our frightened, superstitious, ignorant prehistoric ancestors than to any futuristic culture we would like to emulate.

It's going to take us generations and centuries to get to the point of being a contributing participant in a galactic community. IF we can survive that long.

"I do not know what I may appear to the world; but to myself I seem to have been only like a boy playing on the sea-shore, and diverting myself in now and then finding a smoother pebble or a prettier shell than ordinary, whilst the great ocean of truth lay all undiscovered before me."

  • Isaac Newton

....... but saying all that, I don't mean to be disparaging or negative ... just realistic. In the long run of human history, it will be through people like you and this community of hopeful people that enjoy playing in these ideas and possibilities that will take us one step towards a more hopeful future.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

'O brave new world, that has such people in 't!'

[-] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago

Flaw number one: sci fi can be a lot, tonally. It can be depressing, but also hopeful, horrifying, epic etc.
Flaw number two: fantasy can be a lot, tonally. It can be depressing, but also hopeful, horrifying, epic etc.
Flaw number three: "literature" is not a setting. There's fantasy and sci fi literature as well as real-world-related or apocalyptic literature. "Literature" is just written down stories.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Also fantasy doesn’t have to seem in the past. H*rry Potter was written as present.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

If every genre you read is depressing, you're the common factor.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I don't think sci-fi and fantasy are that clear-cut. A lot of fantasy is quite hopeful (the bad guys pretty much always lose at the end of the story), and it's kind of 50:50 whether it depicts the past as better or worse than it was. e.g. the shire in Lord of the Rings is practically a utopia, despite not being completely unrealistic for a pre-industrial society (it probably looks a lot more utopian than it is because most of the hobbit characters we know are aristocrats).

Literature is, generally, definitely not about happy feelings, though.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is Farmer Maggot erasure and I won't have it

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

That's my secret, Cap. I'm depressed about the past, present, and future at the same time.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

For Conservatives these days ....

Sci-fi is their fantasy

Fantasy is their reality

and literature about dystopian futures is their guide

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Sci-fi with depression replaced by hopefulness = Star Trek.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Literature with depression replaced by hopefulness = solarpunk?

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago
[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

<3

You, Picard Maneuver and Stamets are the coolest already just counting the amount of Star Trek content y'all make/share.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

The Culture

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Sci-fi with depression replaced by hopefulness = Star Trek.

Only because everything problematic about Trek is written off by fans as bad writing and/or it being a product of it's time and/or it being a film, and any opinion to the contrary is considered deeply offensive fighting talk.

Not to mention the fan base can get hella toxic too, the Micheal Burnham Discovery era was not a fun time to be a fan participating in episode discussions.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Uh, did I always use the word "literature" wrong? Literature is not a genre... is it?

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

No, the OP is the one that wrong.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

This is just wanting a pretext to be depressed.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

People need a pretext now?

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Sci-fi is what the future could be.
Fantasy is what the world will never be.
Literature is what the world is.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Sci-fi makes me even more depressed because I start to think what we could have now and don’t have because of capitalism

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Apocalypse is when you happy about the future.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Wrong. Scifi at least is about the present. It just uses flashy backdrops and tech to bring you out of your bubble and think a different way about it.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Split fiction!

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

You like science fiction because of how it makes you feel about the future. I like science fiction because space ships cool.

We are not the same.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

I prefer high fantasy over grim dark fantasy.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

why not all three

[-] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Scifi is when you're a fucking nerd who likes technology. Fantasy is when you're a fucking nerd who likes history. Literature is when you're a fucking nerd.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Since when are sci-fi and fantasy nerds fucking?

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