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The DNC cited a procedural concern, but Hogg said it is “impossible to ignore the broader context” of his criticisms.

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[–] [email protected] 162 points 2 days ago (38 children)

These shit bags will never learn

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 day ago (81 children)

Don’t ever ask for progressives’ vote again. We’re done voting blue no matter who.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago (42 children)

So where, pray tell, do the progressive votes go?

Primary them sure. Try and snag it back. But you won't turn your next vote red. You know that. And they know that. And I sure as fuck won't do it either. The DNC can rot. But...

You can and should blame the two party system sure. But if you don't primary and win. Well. We've seen that before again and again.

I'm a progressive that will vote blue again. Reluctantly. Emphatically so. But I will.

The posturing of principals means nothing in our political reality. And it pisses me off. But reality doesn't care about your feelings.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Honestly, maybe it's time for progressives to take over the Republican party primary and start moving them left .

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (15 children)

I no longer vote for neoliberals or for folks who receive aipac money.

Period.

I won’t vote for a republican either.

If they want my vote they have to support policies that I do.

Period.

Blue no matter who is how we got here.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Primary them sure.

Democratic primaries are kabuki. Trying to oust Hogg is just the latest demonstration.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (5 children)

If democrats want our votes, it's time for them to start earning them.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would not consider myself a far leftie, more of a left of center kind of guy, but I have found Hogg’s vivacity refreshing. The old guard should squirm, considering they shat the bed last go-round, and may even have lost us the country.

There are plenty of Bernie Trumpers out there, that feel this country has ignored them. And they’re right in the kinds of nooks and crannies where we need to win.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

Hogg is more of a centrist as well, his only sin was threatening the power of party leadership. As far as I know he's pretty much in the middle of the party when it comes to policy issues.

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