I could start WWIII, I can see that happening
Don't you love trump?
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There is no way, in hell, that Trump plans on making Canadians into American citizens. Why would he add the equivalent of another California to the voting population. No Canadian will ever cast a vote in favor of the political party that took their country from them.
What version of statehood is he envisioning here?
The scariest part here is that the Republicans are acting, in every way, like they will never be subject to a legitimate vote again.
There is no way, in hell, that Trump plans on making Canadians into American voters ~~citizens~~.
We'll be like Guam or Puerto Rico.
They already answered this question. They would use procedural rules to prevent Canadian votes from mattering, the same as they have done in the US in many states.
The scariest part here is that the Republicans are acting, in every way, like they will never be subject to a legitimate vote again.
I thought that's the plan?!
That's because they know the fix is in. Here are the receipts
https://sdvoice.info/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won-here-are-the-numbers/
Making us citizens and giving us statehood are two different things, and I could see the former, but not the latter. Not that we would join willingly in the first place
Then he needs to stop calling it a 51st. A state can vote. A territory cannot.
Do US territories legit get no representation in government?
In Canada the territories are a riding, thus have a seat in Parliament (A massive one due to their small and spare population)
The fact that he's even entertaining this is insane. He needs to be removed from office. Fuck the media for reporting on it like this is just one side of an argument that makes any kind of sense.
"Something could happen"? Motherfucker, you either make it happen or not. It's not something that's bestowed upon us from the sky
Bullies don't attack people they're scared of.
And y'know what? The US would still lose.
Both are a threat with violence and war to independent states, let there be no mistake.
This should not just be condemned politically by every other country, they should boycot the usa
Technically Wolverine is Canadian
Technically? He's Canadian
Puerto Rico should be first in that line, followed by DC.
And Guam. And American Samoa. And US virgin islands. And mariana Islands.
And Gaza.
Marinara islands sound tasty
Threatening war on an ally, a member of the EU and UN; while helping the enemy.
That's not what a russian asset would do...
The UN is not an alliance. Perhaps you were thinking of NATO?
Forcing the UN to split their forces between Ukraine and Greenland....
Totally not what a Russian asset would do.
Well shit.. I don't know how I did not see this angle. He doesn't even have to deal with the back lash of dead US soldiers for a war nobody in their right mind will support.. he just needs to present a legitimate enough threat to divide NATO forces. For fucks sake, I can't wait for the morning I wake up to find out he is dead. Edited a word
Reminder to the military: you are not required to follow illegal orders. In fact, you are duty-bound to disobey them
I'm quite positive, whether he invades a sovereign nation or not, in some time -- be it five years, ten, or more -- we'll have our own version of the Nuremberg trials. Whoever is still alive that perpetrated or participated in this rape of democracy will be held accountable, someday, because all dictatorships fall.
The only question is how many people have to suffer before then.
I want to see leavitt do the march to prison. She is the present day Otto.
I hope that you’re right, but it does need to be pointed out that Nazi Germany didn’t have thousands of strategic nukes
It took a whole world war and everyone bagging on Germany/Japan for something like that to happen.
In order for history to repeat, we'd need to have everyone in the world team up against the US.
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An invasion of Greenland, or Canada, wouldn't necessarily be unlawful.
Remember 9/11? Remember George Bush asking Congress to approve his use of military force to hunt down the suspects?
Well that Authorization for the Use of Military Force, unlike any prior which had clearly defined limitations, was simply against "terror" and set to expire "never."
One member of Congress refused to vote for this, precisely because she understood that Congress was effectively forever giving up its ability to determine when and how the President was allowed to deploy the military. She got death threats. She was right.
All Trump has to do is "find" a terrorist threat in a country, and he's allowed to send US troops there. Remember how he recently decided that fentanyl is a weapon of mass destruction? Yeah.
He’s already trying with the Mexican gang in Canada. Congress are well aware of this strategy and it has been a talking point one the floor. It’s actually been said that US is more a threat to Canada not the other way around. In which more fentanyl and illegal immigrants pass the border from the US to Canada. I mean he has that angle in which he can complain about the Mexican gang but then he has to also admit he is also responsible for putting them in Canada. Cuz the US is the only path to Canada from Mexico.
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US could do that, sure.
But I bet it'd quickly find out just how much of its power, safety and bravado is due to being located in a geographically safe and isolated area with no real hostile armies trying to end them from the other side of the border.
Just how much of that willingness to fight comes from invading foreign underdeveloped territories across the sea, with little chance for the fight to make its way back to US cities and US civilians.
Easy to start fights from the comfort of a distant home, sending only military lives into the far away battlefield.
Something Europe, Asia, Africa and the Middle East can't claim, as they have to contend with potentially bad neighbors due to all sorts of reasons.
Go ahead, poke the bear, FAFO.
Trump doesnt care. In fact he’d welcome an invasion on his soil to attack the dems. Saves him from trying to convince the military to arrest citizens for not bending the knee.
This is the real story of American 'exceptionalism' Its how the US was able to accrue so much wealth during WW2.
Its easy to sit on the sidelines when you're geographically isolated and not #1 though. The world order has changed (in fact they're the ones who reshaped it) and now they are desperately trying to force their way back to the 1950s because they had unbelievable leverage and a incrediblely disproportionate share of global wealth following the war.
In fact, I believe that's in part why we're seeing a backslide in human decency. A lot of less educated folk see that their parents and grandparents were more prosperous when they were racist, misogynist and transphobic and are acting as if going backwards in that regard will bring back the 'good times'.
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Canada would probably put up a fight, and bullies only pick on those too weak to resist.
Greenland is part of Denmark, so attacking it ought to trigger NATO Article 5. I'm pretty sure NATO ex-US is capable of putting up a fight too, even if the 50k people who live in Greenland themselves could not.
This comment alone put more thought into the strategic situation of Greenland than Trump ever has.
They're going to use the cia. Trump would use proxy forces to invade under the guise of assisting a rebellion. He can find an opposition political leader, declare him the leader (in this case, declare Greenland to be soverign from Denmark) and then absorb greenland.
Nope, not possible.
Everything would leak worse than hegseth because they all think it's stupid and have more friends in Europe than here.
The CIA would love to bring this regime down, they hate the worthless inbred southern fried junta more than anyone.
That's true, but how many leaks have you seen regarding the CIA's operations in Venezuela?
https://www.wired.com/story/trump-cia-venezuela-maduro-regime-change-plot/
The US recognized a right-winger as the rightful president of Venezuela and even had most the US believing it. No leaks at all.
Because they wanted to take down Venezuela.
Taking down Greenland doesn't help them and it strengthens Trump, which is bad for them.
They want him weak and helpless, a failure at their mercy.
Expect that.
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