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President Trump said he would talk to Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney about making Canada the 51st state. But the president said he didn't expect it to get to the point of using military force — though he wouldn't commit to the same for Greenland. 

"Something could happen with Greenland, I'll be honest," Trump said in an interview with NBC News' "Meet the Press" that aired on Sunday.  He said that "we need that for national and international security," but he added "I don't see it with Canada. I just don't see it."

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[–] [email protected] 231 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Reminder to the military: you are not required to follow illegal orders. In fact, you are duty-bound to disobey them

[–] [email protected] 76 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (3 children)

I'm quite positive, whether he invades a sovereign nation or not, in some time -- be it five years, ten, or more -- we'll have our own version of the Nuremberg trials. Whoever is still alive that perpetrated or participated in this rape of democracy will be held accountable, someday, because all dictatorships fall.

The only question is how many people have to suffer before then.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

I want to see leavitt do the march to prison. She is the present day Otto.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 17 hours ago

I hope that you’re right, but it does need to be pointed out that Nazi Germany didn’t have thousands of strategic nukes

[–] [email protected] 11 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It took a whole world war and everyone bagging on Germany/Japan for something like that to happen.

In order for history to repeat, we'd need to have everyone in the world team up against the US.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 16 hours ago

Not really, just for someone who comes after him to hold him and his cronies accountable. And there will be someone after him, sooner or later, that will. It might not be his immediate successor, or his successor's successor. But people aren't going to forget about this.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

An invasion of Greenland, or Canada, wouldn't necessarily be unlawful.

Remember 9/11? Remember George Bush asking Congress to approve his use of military force to hunt down the suspects?

Well that Authorization for the Use of Military Force, unlike any prior which had clearly defined limitations, was simply against "terror" and set to expire "never."

One member of Congress refused to vote for this, precisely because she understood that Congress was effectively forever giving up its ability to determine when and how the President was allowed to deploy the military. She got death threats. She was right.

All Trump has to do is "find" a terrorist threat in a country, and he's allowed to send US troops there. Remember how he recently decided that fentanyl is a weapon of mass destruction? Yeah.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

He’s already trying with the Mexican gang in Canada. Congress are well aware of this strategy and it has been a talking point one the floor. It’s actually been said that US is more a threat to Canada not the other way around. In which more fentanyl and illegal immigrants pass the border from the US to Canada. I mean he has that angle in which he can complain about the Mexican gang but then he has to also admit he is also responsible for putting them in Canada. Cuz the US is the only path to Canada from Mexico.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

You're thinking if us laws, but we're talking about international law

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Lol, that was funny. The powerful in the US don't even care about domestic law, let alone international law, which has even less of an enforcement mechanism without the risk of starting an international conflict.

It's the same reason why Netanyahu and Putin haven't been arrested even though they have warrants out for their arrest by the ICJ.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The US deliberately does not subject itself to international laws, because it breaks them routinely. It is a rogue state in that regard, and it did not start with Trump or even Bush.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

The US already attacked Canada using one of its propaganda tools: Facebook. This is cyberwarfare.

Facebook bombarded Canadian audience with right wing propaganda during the election.

https://themercury.com/news/national/canadas-election-offers-fodder-for-us-right-wing-influencers/article_f1adcc7c-4c18-569a-b875-01c222cc406a.html

Some have tried to argue that it's actually facebook trying to get revenge for Canadian courts eliminating the cbc from social media feeds. Does that make any sense? They don't care if canada doesn't get news. They want that since they were curating those news feeds with stilted inflammatory content like many right wingers wanted in the first place.