davidagain

Kamala Harris doesn't support a ceasefire in secret, she calls for it openly, meanwhile Donald Trump, the only other person who could become president, phones up Netanyahu to tell him to reject Biden's ceasefire plan.

It's very clear. Your attempt to muddy the waters is just doing Trump's will. You occasionally claim not to support Trump, but all you ever talk about is how evil Harris is and you can barely scrape a sentence together every ten comments or so mildly conceding that Trump isn't perfect.

It really sounds like you have no idea what the difference is between employee contributions and employer contributions.

Answer me this. If you get a company car for free, do you complain that your salary was reduced?

If Johnny has 100 apples and the Belgian government gives 13 of them to some folk in hospital or care homes and Johnny doesn't ever spend a penny on health care, how many apples does he have, and what does it matter to Johnny if his employer who has tens of thousands of apples has to give some of them to the folks in hospital instead of to the shareholders?

If Jimmy has 150 apples and the US government takes 20 of them and he gives 50 of them to his health insurer to pay down debt and then has to remortgage his house to pay for his Mum's cancer treatment, how much better off do you think Jimmy really is?

"The United States has the world’s highest per capita health care costs—about double those of other wealthy nations"

If you don't support him, why do you spend so much time online parroting his talking points? It's weird. Anyway, still doesn't address the point that vegans choosing neither makes things better and voters who care about Gaza choosing neither makes Trump win and things would be worse for Palestine and the Middle East and the USA, and women and trans folk and education, and you'd have Epstein's "best friend" and "the best king of Israel" back in the Whitehouse. Unless you vote for the only person who can stop him, the imperfect but much, much better Kamala Harris.

Did you see the "Trump is planning a third red scare" news headline, starting the article with

Donald Trump and his allies aren’t making a secret of it: if they win, they’re going to launch a campaign of repression to destroy the pro-Palestinian movement and the organized left.

Tell me you don't understand taxation without telling me you don't understand taxation.

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Untrue.

It's 13%.

It covers both heath care and social care (old people's homes and help for elderly or disabled).

No you didn't, not once, and your criticism "I'm worried that they don't mean what they say so I'm gonna make pretend that they love war" is like a drop in the ocean compared to the evils a trump presidency would inflict on the world.

Aw gee, look at my post about electoral arithmetic vs vegan arithmetic that you ignore completely and tell me DEmoCRats eViL as usual, with your favourite one sided unfair misrepresentation served up as the usual non sequitur with a side of classic @OBJECTION!-style glossing over how much worse trump would be for Palestine, the world and the USA.

Thanks, I hate it.

And my criticism of you is that you just PRETEND to care about Gaza so you can find reasons to get leftists to exclude themselves from choosing the president so that the right wins and everything gets WORSE in Gaza and rich idiots in the USA sit happily unaffected.

That you pretend to dislike Trump, but can't bring yourself to say more than 10% of what you say against him, and it'll be vague and not on any of the real issues and 90% of what you say will be both sidesing it and acting like the Democrats are worse than the Republicans.

Still doesn't compare.

If 10% of citizens who care about animals consistently don't eat pork or beef, the food industry reduces production and fewer pigs and cows get slaughtered for food.

If 10% of citizens who care about Palestinians don't vote, Trump wins and it's in Netanyahu's interest to prolong, advance and widen his genocidal flattening of Gaza, extend it to the whole of the West Bank, wipe out as much of Lebanon as he can and take the war to Iran. That and all the turning the military on left wing citizens, mass deportations, leaving women to lose their fertility or die for lack of healthcare nationality, put trans people in jail after calling them pedophiles and let their pedophile friends off scot free. Meanwhile the Democrats see that left wingers don't vote and the only votes they can chase are "centrists" and adopt more right wing policies because nothing moves the Overton window right more than a right wing government and there's no loopy logic that'll get you out of that reality.

If those 10% vote for Kamala Harris she continues to call publicly and privately for a ceasefire, and if the Democrats win both the House and the Senate they have the chance to actually change stuff and shit like the republicans' new law removing the president's power to delay and shipments gets washed away and there's a chance, albeit small, that Harris is in power long enough and securely enough to do as you advocate and pressurise Netanyahu to stop, but there's zero chance of that if she loses.

There's no third option. It's either Trump winning and everything getting worse, especially in Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon, the Middle East generally and the USA in particular, or Kamala winning and things getting marginally better.

Vegans make a positive difference by refusing both.

People like you make things much, much worse by refusing both.

Yeah, people already explained to you that you can choose neither beef nor pork and you will get neither beef nor pork, but if you choose neither the geriatric loony nor the sane candidate, you will still definitely get one of them. The vegan analogy is bogus because it's a scenario in which there's a free choice from a vast number of options. You keep saying you want neither, but you can't have neither. You have to have one of them as president.