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[–] [email protected] 83 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I've actually found C# quite pleasant to develop with, so long as I didn't have to worry about targeting non-Windows platforms.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

It's fully cross platform with .NET Core and later.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It was even before through mono/xamarin

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

What does fully cross platform mean? It sounds very vague and a lot like an exaggeration.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

The standard .NET C# compiler and CLI run on and build for Windows, MacOS, and Linux. You can run your ASP.NET webapps in a Linux docker container, or write console apps and run them on Linux, it doesn't matter anymore. As a .NET dev I have literally no reason to ever touch Windows, unless I'm touching legacy code from before .NET Core or building a Windows-exclusive app using a Windows app framework.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Well, I'm currently writing a service and frontend, both in C# (Blazor for the UI), and using docker-compose to build and deploy them to a Raspberry Pi running Linux. So not only cross-platform, but cross-architecture as well.

This is not a new thing either. Since .NET Core was released almost 10 years ago, it has supported cross platform development.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I feel the pain in your comment.

I too have been burned by "cross-platform" tooling. What I've learned is the more complex your project is, the less likely it is to have simple cross compliation.

But with that huge caveat, I'll say I've had a better time doing cross comp on dotnet than I have rust. Either of them are infinitely better than learning cmake though. That's definitely just my amateur take though. I'm sure smarter people will tell you I'm wrong.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Yea this was a crosspost and also just a meme, but C# is my fav

And really cross-platform has come a LONG way...just as long as you don't need UI on Linux lolol

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

Not really, even GUI is going strong, check Avalonia UI.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Or realistically on Mac. Mac Catalyst is neat but you’re basically building an iPad UI and afaik that’s all that MAUI supports still

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah C# gets a bad rap. I spent a decade developing in C++, and Java before switching to C# because of program requirements. Now I never want to go back.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

C# development was spearheaded by Anders Hjelsberg, one of the brains behind Borland Delphi/Object Pascal.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Does it get a bad rap outside of this meme? I've only heard praise. It's by far my favorite language

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

It's kind of the opposite of eclipse. People who use it like it and people who don't have experience with it disparage it.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I have used many languages in my 25 years of programming. C# is the best.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

I've used many languages/platforms in my 30 years of programming (take that!), including Visual Basic, C, C#, Java, Objective-C and C++. I agree that C# is the best but not by much. They all do pretty much the same things - if one language lacks something that other languages have shown to be beneficial, that something tends to get incorporated in a future update in some form or another, and their glaring weaknesses tend to get corrected as well (like when Objective-C mostly did away with the need to explicitly release fucking everything).

[–] [email protected] 64 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Poor Visual J# (literal Microsoft Java) isn't even in the picture

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sun killed it fast enough so almost nobody remembers.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

I'd argue we aborted before it could be born into mainstream

[–] [email protected] 60 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

I'm not a big M$-fan but I actually like c# a lot. Java not so much.

I'm no pro though, I just guerilla-code in my spare time. But of all the languages it's actually my most used. Besides PPL and ASM 😁

[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I have 20 years programming experience and C# is one of my favorite languages. It feels so expressive and doesn't get in your way nearly as much as Java does. I feel like I'm writing the code I want to write instead of writing the code someone from 30 years ago with a fetish for boilerplate wanted me to write.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Microsoft Java is one of those cases where MS got the "extend" phase so well executed that they didn't even need to finish the plan.

That said, the language is only good if you insist on using either it or Java. And the ecosystem around it is really, really bad.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

You can't really kill a programming language though

Companies are going to continue using it just because it's what they used before

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

C# is a great language but I'll always choose Java because the ecosystem around it is so vast. Often times some client library you need has a c# port maintained by one guy and he hasn't updated in years.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

OK you probably need it more often than I do. But so far, I always found anything I needed for C#. But I'm surely no measure of course, I'm a casual who only codes stuff i, myself, need. And just me/wifey.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

C# is better than java just because it doesn't have as much brain rotting "DesIgN PaTTeRnS" gurus

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

A shame there is no real FOSS movement behind it (for what I know) it could do with some modernization.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What do you mean? The entire stack is open source.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm just hoping for a more thriving community behind it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I think that is probably due to the places where it shrines isn't often a FOSS area. All my corporate use was for these massive windows applications. FOSS many times are small teams making very targeted solutions. Aside from Android, it feels like Java programmers are picking java out of personal skill. I don't known what apps I use would be a good target for C#.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Also, optional value semantics. I love value semantics!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Instead you get rotten-brained dependency injection rules.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

TypeScript?

It is Microsoft JavaScript.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

TypeScript is actually pretty nice, it'd be JScript instead.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

TypeScript is only nice compared to JavaScript. It still has most of the warts and footguns of JS, but the typing system really is badly needed.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

I remember J++. Ew.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

I just unlocked a core memory.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

There is a third brother nobody ever even mentions ... He is also named after an island

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Kotlin is one of my favorite languages

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