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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Do you think Trump, Musk and their oligarch insider friends maybe, just maybe, opened short positions on a bunch of stock ahead of the new tariff announcement?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

This is my thought exactly.

I watched Steven Colbert yesterday saying that this large of a fuck up is proof there is no deep state. While I get his point, I disagree. If there is someone in the shadows pulling strings this was the intended outcome.

It's pretty well known that in trading markets, there's almost always something that goes up when everything else drops like a rock. Even as such, moving money to be liquid right before a steep drop off, then buying up all the formerly high-value stocks at bargain basement pricing, and just waiting for the rebound, is a legit strategy. Having foreknowledge of such an action is considered insider trading however. Realistically, insider trading is difficult to prove unless the perpetrator is an idiot.

Whether you call it the deep state or the 1% or oligarchs, or simply "rich assholes", if you believe there is a group orchestrating things, then you beat believe this was the intended outcome.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Nothing needs to go up. Shorting stocks lets you make money off of them when they go down. If a person or group of people can cause a crash and know in advance what day it's happening, they can borrow stocks and then buy the stock to repay the loan at a lower price and pocket the change.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Isn’t the value of short position rising?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago

Screen of the WSJ on mobile. For posterity.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 6 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 hour ago

Another one from 2012:

Tweet by Donald J. Trump from Nov. 6, 2012: If the Dow drops 1,000 points in two days, the president should be impeached immediately!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Now we know why he's keeping Elon around, he needs a lift.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

Such incredible foresight from Elon—parking a Tesla in orbit around the sun for this particular occasion!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 16 hours ago (9 children)

I was considering trying to cash out my 401k and ira in the US (I bought my first house and I think that's one of the allowed cases), but hadn't worked out the details yet. Guess that's not happening right now. I no longer live in the US and will probably renounce citizenship once my parents go.

I looked at my other investments this morning based on this post and.... Lol. Granted, I only one a handful, but it still hurts. My stock that was worth only like 40 cents moved up 5+% so yay for that, I guess.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Yes and the same last month, and the month before.

Do some paper trading when he does this. See how much money you could make if you buy who he is fucking just to turn it around the week after.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago

To be fair, the market is roughly at where it was in September (pending further tanking). So, not a huge difference...yet.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Got my family out last year, I commute back and forth.

There is something really sick about watching this from overseas, like watching paramedics carry bodies out of a car crash.

But it was no fun when I was there.

Fucking morons shooting themselves in the balls to look tough.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago

I've only been twice in the last decade: once the year after I moved and summer 2022ish. It's just crazy to watch. My family just offered to pay for us to fly out for vacation but I declined. My non-white wife that doesn't really speek English + immigration now means we're not going near the place.

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[–] [email protected] 116 points 20 hours ago (6 children)

He inherited a growing economy, a healthy stock market and low unemployment. He has undone all 3. Power move!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

No imagine what evil he could do if he didn't spend 90 % of his waking time golfing!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago

And he was very quick about it. I have never seen anyone deal so artfully before. /s

[–] [email protected] 19 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Be fair, it did take a long time to undo all that...
He's been back in office an astonishing two months. That's a lifetime!!

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 17 hours ago (5 children)

My 401k today is $520 less than what it was Jan 21st. I put in almost $600 every 2 weeks.

That's a good chunk of change that just disappeared. I can only imagine how much someone with a bigger retirement account than I have is hurting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

It disappeared now. When COVID hit I upped my contribution just to max out when the market was at a low.

The only way for the 401k to disappear entirely is if the entire economy is royally, never before seen fucked and completely collapses. At that point retirement if probably not a possibility anyways.

Any other situation you're essentially 'buying the dip' and will see the returns years from now. Although if you're looking to retire anytime in the near future it will likely be a huge hit on what you can take out.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Switching from pensions to 401ks was one of the greatest swindles of the 20th century.

It's funny seeing how this generation grasps for morsels. Big reason why I don't respect ya'll.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

I'm not sure if you're a Boomer who had an actual choice, or a Gen α who has an excuse for not understanding.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago

Looking at your comment history, you're an idiot lol

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

And yet people still felt the need to vote for him

I'll never understand this country....

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago

Lack of education, bo lack of racism

[–] [email protected] 12 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

And people still thinks he is playing some sort of 4D chess. My friend in Georgia mentioned that people around her says Trump is creating a dip, so that federal reserve will lower interest rate.

Yes, because president can fire tons fedral workers, can send secret police to abduct people, but cannot control the federal reserve, and have to play stagnation or bust.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

One of the talking heads on one of those business news shows summed up the theory about lowering interests rates as "it's like burning down the house to cook a steak."

There's no plan here, it's just a deranged old man surrounded by sycophants doing all of the things people previously told him wouldn't work.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago

Racism.

The south started a war and killed 600k Americans for racism.

It's all some of them care about, it's their alpha and omega.

[–] [email protected] 97 points 23 hours ago (6 children)

The trump regime was designed to TANK the US economy so that stocks, businesses, and industries can be bought by billionaires at rock bottom prices.

All is going according to plan.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

Its Russia in the 90s all over again. Must be a coincidence that the Russian mafia-turned-regime they're so chummy with, got its foot in the door and secured its power through an almost identical move.

Im wondering if America will have its equivalent of the 1999 Apartment bombings.

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[–] [email protected] 117 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 87 points 1 day ago (5 children)

This is apparently a fake tweet. An archive of the actual tweet corresponding to that datetime is here.

[–] [email protected] 166 points 1 day ago (27 children)

Time for the rich to buy stocks on discount.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

His MAGA fans likely don't have anything in the market, or they don't think they do, so they think this won't affect them. They are in for a rude awakening.

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