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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)
Feature Notion Joplin Obsidian Evernote Zoho Notebook GoodNotes Zim Wiki Standard Notes MyInfo
Cloud Sync Yes Yes Optional Yes Yes Yes Manual Yes Manual
Offline Support Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Handwriting Support No Limited No Yes Yes Excellent No No No
Encryption No Yes No Partial No No No Yes No
Hierarchy Support Yes Yes Yes Yes Partial Yes Yes No Yes
Free Version Yes Yes Yes Limited Yes Limited Yes Limited No
Platform Support Win, macOS, iOS, Android, Web Win, macOS, Linux, iOS, Android Win, macOS, Linux Win, macOS, iOS, Android, Web Win, macOS, iOS, Android, Web iOS, iPadOS, macOS Win, Linux Win, macOS, Linux, iOS, Android, Web Windows

E: I noticed a couple mistakes. Lemme know if you spot others and I can edit (at time of this writing anyways)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I personally use Obsidian, but I know that other have suggested logseq. Might be useful to have in your table. Also, Obsidian does have an Android app.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is unreadable on mobile in portrait mode

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

On Boost, the columns got narrowed to each three characters wide, just to fit all columns on screen width-wise

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Perfectly readable with the Voyager App.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

thunder and wefwef/voyager are the lemy apps i use on my phone

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I suggest You track, which has a Wiki component. It had extensions like Draw.IO as well for diagramming which is basically a necessity for me.

Its self hostable or a free cloud version.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

Great note - thanks for the contribution.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Well shit. Time to rip my own files because their migration stuff is going to be all Microsoft proprietary.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm very interested in OneNote alternatives. I've been using OneNote for longer than I've disliked Microsoft... and I still think it's a good app. Pretty much the only thing I don't like about OneNote is the increasingly close integration with Windows accounts. I'd rather my notes were not scanned and uploaded and processed by a US mega-corp...

Anyway, people keep suggesting stuff like Joplin. But that isn't even vaguely close to OneNote in terms of stylus and inking. For me, inking is the main core feature. And so in terms of alternatives, xournal++ is a closer fit. (xournal++ has essentially no organisational structure for notes; but it is really great for inking.)

What I'd really like is basically the organisational structure of Joplin (or whatever other alternative) + the inking power of xournal++. And ideally being able to import my vast amounts of handwritten OneNote work! -- But that last bit is probably too much to ask.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I've been using Any.type for a bit over a year, and am very happy with it, but I don't believe it has hand writing support.

There is a free tier that includes 1gb synced storage (optional).

It's open source. Somewhat similar to Obsidian, but no plugin support that I'm aware of.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I switched from OneNote a couple of years ago.

For hand writing i suggest using Rnote and for normal keyboard writing I suggest Joplin. Keep it synced using cloud provider or using Syncthing for free.

About organizational structure in Rnote I unfortunatelly recommend just saving files in a structure of folders. Rnote is the most polished alternative to hand-writing capabilities of OneNote I've found :c

About importing notes. I don't think that's possible but you can surely export them all to PDF from OneNote. I did that when I migrated.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll check out Rnote sometime soon.

(As I said, I do like the writing & drawing features of xournal++; and so I've been doing a bit of basic file / folder organising with that already; but it certainly isn't as easily browseable as OneNote.)

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 days ago

It's the usual rename and replace that Microsoft love to do.

"OneNote for Windows 10" is going to be replaced by "OneNote for Windows"

Why they always do the kill, rename and replace instead of just replace with an update? Each kill&replace operation leads to lost users...

[–] [email protected] 105 points 2 days ago (35 children)

This is a good time to switch to Notesnook, which has a OneNote importer.

Why am I about to shill so hard for this particular app? Simple, because after Evernote enshittified over a decade ago, I switched to OneNote as the least terrible alternative, and then spent the next ten years trying to find an actually good, open source notes app.

Call me Ahab because this motherfucker has been my white whale for a not-insignificant portion of my life.

Notesnook, finally, hit everything I wanted;

  • You can self host it (but you don't have to)
  • Self hosters get everything on the paid plan for free
  • It has a web app, a desktop app, and a healthy ecosystem of phone apps, with - very importantly - 1:1 feature parity. Everything you want to do you can do from any of the interfaces and for the most part they're even laid out identically.
  • It has a proper rich text WYSIWYG editor. It does not demand you learn FUCKING MARKDOWN. JESUS H CHRIST I DO NOT WANT TO LEARN A FUCKING SYNTAX TO MAKE NOTES, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?
  • But for those who care about that stuff, it is built on markdown, and all your notes can be exported in markdown, so there's no lock in. And you can use markdown in the editor (without even having to switch modes like a lot of other editors).
  • Everything is encrypted by default. Notes can also be individually password protected.
  • You can share copies of notes with optional password protection and self-destruction.
  • It has a really slick UI. Everything works, everything is intuitive, there are tonnes of keyboard shortcuts. I find I actually have an easier time writing long form text content (such as a novella I'm working on) in Notesnook than I did in Word or LibreOffice.
  • It builds a TOC for notes automatically. You can link notes to each other, and links are bidirectional so you can track which notes link to a particular note.
  • You have sorting by both tags, and notebooks. Notebooks are infinitely nestable, and - this is really cool - notes can exist in multiple notebooks simultaneously.
  • It has robust web clipper for Firefox and Chrome.
  • Very robust attachment support.
  • God so much more, I'm having to deliberately stop here.

What it's currently lacking is drawing support. If that's a must have for you, check out Joplin instead (at least for now, I've seen some talk about Notesnook integrating Excalibur for digital canvas, which would be a superb solution).

Anyway, please check out Notesnook. It's excellent, and I like sharing excellent things. https://notesnook.com/downloads/

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I am trying it out given all the praise.

  • I can't create more than 5 (!) tags in the free version
  • it can't export notes in anything else than borked text files in the free version (formatting lost, no markdown, no pdf, no html)
  • it doesn't let me choose where I store my notebooks, in fact does not tell me where it saves them at all
  • backup files are not human-readable, they don't appear to be zip files in disguise, they are seemingly locked to notesnook (".nnbackupz")
  • the importer/converter is on the web, and requires me to upload all my plain text MD files for conversion

I use QOwnNotes on the daily, which does not have any such limitations. On the other hand, it's a markdown editor, which means your monitor space is divided by two : it has separate editing & preview panes. It's honestly a bummer because apart from that it's pretty much perfect

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It has a proper rich text WYSIWYG editor. It does not demand you learn FUCKING MARKDOWN. JESUS H CHRIST I DO NOT WANT TO LEARN A FUCKING SYNTAX TO MAKE NOTES, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?

I’m curious about this agressive stance. Why is markdown so triggering for you ? I get the pros of WYSIWYG but it has also some cons. On Lemmy for instance you use markdown without even noticing ?

I use Obsidian and I’m happy with it. The markdown syntax is really easy and it’s « almost » WYSIWYG because you see the markdown only at your cursor. It even has a plugin for excalidraw.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

What a fucking shill. I’m downloading this right now.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Did you by chance self host the sync server using docker compose? Their instructions aren't great and I was hoping you had some tips.

For anyone else interested, if I figure it out, I'll post what I did here.

Edit 1: I finally got it all setup but syncing isn't working so I guess I did something wrong 🙄 . Troubleshooting now

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

So yes, I did, and yes, their docs suck (better documentation is on their roadmap).

There's a really good guide here on Lemmy that I recommend instead. https://lemmy.ml/post/25006407

Following this I had it up and running in no time. Check the comments as well, I added some notes on getting attachments working. If you're still having issues shoot me a message and I'll try to help.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

Ok you win, I'll try it.

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[–] [email protected] 218 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (21 children)

This is not to be confused with the application called "OneNote", that's staying.

You can always trust Microsoft to make two version of the same application and to have really bad naming.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago

Two apps, OneNote.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

You can always trust Microsoft to make two version of the same application and to have really bad naming.

And to make bad naming worse naming, since they switched Office's name to 365 Copilot, not to be confused with 365 (office premium), Copilot (ChatGPT interface), or Copilot (Office text assistant). Office was a perfectly serviceable name they'd used for decades. It's like Twitter rebranding themselves to a single latter like Y. Why would they throw away branding like that?

People are liable to look for office, not find it, and go "oh, Microsoft doesn't sell Word any more ☹️'

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

Obsidian ftw

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Everyong recommending Obsidian in the comments, where are Logseq users?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I stopped using it since they keep not updating the electron version they are using. It took them forever to update after electron 28 went EOL and they updated to a version that would go EOL about a week later, which they have been on ever since..

Edit: They just bumped to a supported version, but only in master. It's still unknown when a release with a supported electron version is coming.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Microsoft is working hard to get you to transition to a Linus Distribution. Thank you microsoft for your hard work and dedication.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago (5 children)

People will never switch. I see at my work how colleagues just learn how to accept the endless shit without even reacting to it anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So pleased I dumped Windows and moved to Linux recently.

Everyone should look into dumping "big tech" and move away from Microsoft, Apple and Google. It's great. And the best part of it, no AI in sight.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (4 children)

That's not true. I can run any AI I want. Emphasis on "I want". ;)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I like Joplin, it could work for me but about 6 months ago I had to quit. My use case is against my s3 instance (not amazon) with 3 devices syncing. It became corrupt everytime.

Has this improved?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

While OneNote for Windows 10 still has roughly half a year, Microsoft will start nagging users with update prompts much earlier. For starters, in June 2025, Microsoft will slow down the app's sync performance, thus forcing customers to ditch the old app, especially those using OneNote on multiple devices or for real-time collaboration.

Next, in July 2025, banners will make their way to OneNote for Windows 10 to make sure users are aware of the upcoming end of support. Microsoft says these banners "could impact users workflows." You do not say, Microsoft.

Wait. You're gonna throttle them and then wait a month to tell them why you're throttling them? What?

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Neowin is the web site where their writers can stupidly claim that Qt getting an advertisement module means that KDE will have ads in their apps soon.

https://web.archive.org/web/20220119103026/https://www.neowin.net/news/ads-may-be-coming-to-kde-the-popular-linux-desktop/

Stop linking to them.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Looks like I made a good decision deciding to move from onenote to obsidian last month. I like that it is a fancy mark down editor so I can just move my text files some where else if I decide to not use Obsidian in the future. When it comes to onenote functionality of being able to draw or paste where ever I want the excalidraw plugin which is open source has met my needs.

Been nice to move to something that is multi platform.

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