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[–] 172 points 2 years ago (44 children)

Don’t forget that maintenance is super cheap AND most people, with only the most basic tools, can do the work in their living room or even just on a sidewalk. And if I don’t get it right and the brakes don’t work perfectly I probably won’t fuckin’ die.

Hi, car owner here. I do all the work myself and it requires a fair bit of knowledge, expensive tools, space, and a childhood where I was never told I couldn’t do that work if I was thoughtful about it. That’s a high fuckin’ bar and requires a whole lot of privilege-oh there it is, too many people with privilege like to shit on those without and most of North America has dogshit for public transit or bike infrastructure and the “freedom of movement” with a car is all there but heavily artificial. Thanks auto industry and their lobbyists.

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  • [–] 56 points 2 years ago (27 children)

    I do my own bicycle and auto repair, and the bicycle is way easier. Maintenance is:

    • clean chain every so often (500 miles or start of the season) - get a chain cleaner tool thing ($10-20) and 50/50 Simple Green ($10 will last many years) and water, and then rinse, dry, and lube ($10 lasts years) - total process, 10 min?
    • replace chain - $20 or so, plus a tool for $10 or so; do every 2k miles or so
    • replace brake pads - $10-20
    • tires ($50 for a fancy fire) and tubes ($10) - replace tires when bald, tubes when flat (or patch them), and get some tire levers ($5-10) to make it easier

    For tools, you need a wrench set, and probably only like 2-3 sizes.

    My yearly maintenance costs for all of our bikes (1 adult, two kids) combined is about $50. If that. You could also go to your local bike shop instead for about double that.

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  • [–] 42 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

    Also this is a healthy maintence regime. In my experience most cyclists do nothing on that list except swapping flat tubes and their bikes still ride just fine, if not merely sub-optimally.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago

    Honestly have never done preventative maintenance on my bikes, only necessary repairs. Still thinking about repairing the shifter since I've been missing 1st gear for about 7-8? years now.

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    [–] 92 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    Bikes were and still are a revolutionary technology. There's a reason suffragettes were often associated with bicycles.

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    [–] 60 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Cop pulls you over on a bicycle:

    "Drivers License and registration please"

    "I don't need those, I'm not driving this bicycle, I'm travelling on it officer. Private conveyance. I don't contract with DMV."

    "Right you are sir, have a nice day!"

    Why haven't the sovcits cottoned on to this loophole?!

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    [–] 55 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    Cuz putting on a raincoat or some warm clothes is too much for these weak ass people.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    I get the sentiment, but a raincoat isn't enough on its own. Sure, if you've got a 5 minute commute, you can get there quickly and spend minimal time in the rain.

    A 20 minute commute in the pissing rain and you will be arriving soaked from head to toe. Not ideal for most. Yeh if you can shower at work then great, but then you've still got wet clothes you need to dry.

    I'm very lucky that I have a 5 minute ride to work, all downhill, so unless the weather is biblical, I don't really have an excuse for taking the car.

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    [–] 50 points 2 years ago (32 children)

    Rain, ice and severe cold are a removed. I like bicycles, but driving to work in a heated car looking at that poor cyclist riding somewhere at 6 in the morning at -6°C, sorry, no, I'm gonna go with a car.

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    [–] 49 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I'm disabled in a way that means I can't use one, but can use a car, which kinda sucks.

    Fortunately bike infrastructure usually helps me in my chair, so I'm all in favor of wider bike adoption.

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    [+] 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)
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    [–] 35 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    Cars are the ultimate symbol of freedom because you just get in and go wherever to do whatever.

    Pick nanna up? sure. Go buy her groceries? Sure. In the pouring rain? Ok. Pick up her dog from the vet? Yep. Drop by the garden store and grab 50kg of fertilizer? You bet.

    You can do all of those things with out any planning or notice. You just get in and go wherever the day takes you.

    I'm a bit bonkers about bikes. I have a cargo e-bike. It absolutely could do all of these things in separate trips. Doing all of them together would be a challenge but I am 100% here for that so long as nanna is. The main difference is planning. You need different gear, like a bike trailer for example. You're also probably going to pick the right time of day, like early before it gets too hot or too windy, provided that it's not raining.

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    [–] 28 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Not probably, a human riding a bicycle is the most efficient way to convert energy into movement. No other vehicle or animal can be as efficient.

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    [–] 27 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    A bicycle gives you freedom of lightweight activities within a few miles of your home. You want to play baritone sax in the band 25 miles away? It's not happening with a bike.

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    [–] 23 points 2 years ago (25 children)

    car go further faster, and car more useful when not in big city.

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    [–] 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    A related question: why is the "big tough guy" image a guy in a truck?

    Like, you push a pedal with your foot to make your vehicle go vroom vroom. A granny could do that.

    Surely a tough guy is a guy who is straining huge muscles to make a bike hit 50 km/h. A skilled guy is one who can maneuver his bike down a narrow mountain-bike track.

    Imagine looking back in history and seeing a dude being carried around in a sedan chair and thinking that was the ideal image of masculinity, rather than the surely jacked dudes carrying him.

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    [–] 20 points 2 years ago* (8 children)

    Bikes are awesome. I would love to experience the joy of waking up in the morning and riding a bike to work. No traffic, healthy and all that good shit. I live, however, 40min away from my work by car and 3 hours by bike, one way. I dont see this changing in the foreseeable future so my idea of freedom has to be something different.

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    [–] 20 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    because conservatives are fat

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    [–] 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Bikes dont contribute to climate change

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    [–] 15 points 2 years ago (14 children)

    Anyone who has ridden in rain and adverse weather would know one reason cars are more popular.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Picking up a week's worth of shopping for a family, whilst taking your baby with you, in the pouring rain, and you live up a steep hill, and you have joint pain, and a sudden work meeting across the other side of town in an hour...

    I'd love a city designed round bicycles (Cambridge, UK is quite good like that in the centre) but man, despite the downsides cars are amazing things.

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    [–] 14 points 2 years ago

    The auto industry will fight tooth and nail to avoid anything that impacts their revenue generation.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (13 children)

    Arrive to work soaked in sweat because it's been 100+ degrees every day for the past 8 weeks.

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    [–] 14 points 2 years ago (23 children)

    Because showing up to a client meeting dripping in sweat on a 103 degree day is considered to be poor form. Because I got a new job and don’t have an extra two hours in my day to ride a bike back and forth, and moving isn’t in the cards. Because I have to carry a couple kids and all the crap the goes along with them.

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    [–] 14 points 2 years ago (75 children)

    I dare you to travel on your own bicycle in the depths of winter across the USA in the same timeframe as a car.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    Eh, I did that for a couple years in Utah and it was largely fine. When the snow got nasty, I took the bus.

    That was back when my commute was 10 miles (16km) with a segregated bike path the whole way. My new commute is more than double that, so I drive. But if we weren't so car centric, things would be more compact and I wouldn't have this nasty commute.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

    But demonstrate the incontrovertible need for a car during one's regular commute through an average modern city. And I'm even offering the main exception - busses and taxis/ride sharing/whatever the current nomenclature, as I consider public transportation to be its own independent thing, unrelated to Cars.

    I think the people who would enjoy such a venture via bike have or are already doing it, the rest of us would just like to be able to ride the bike through the city without having to play Frogger with three lanes filled with enraged lumps of cortisol *wrapped in two tons of steel and various other such substances.

    Edit: added * to further drive home the viscerality of my desire.

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