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Murica (lemmy.ml)
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[–] 50 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Rain, ice and severe cold are a removed. I like bicycles, but driving to work in a heated car looking at that poor cyclist riding somewhere at 6 in the morning at -6°C, sorry, no, I'm gonna go with a car.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I disagree cycling in winter is nice. Just get some warm clothes and good tyres. A car is also really expensive to own in the city. Why pay for a car and parking when the alternative is almost free and arguably more fun.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    It was minus seventeen degrees celsius when I got up yesterday. In the time it would take me to bicycle to work on clear paths/roads - assuming no accidents - I would have frostbite on all of my face unless I was also wearing a full-face helmet.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    You should check out Oulu in Finland where kids bike to school in cold weather. Not a problem apparently. If that is too far fetched, you should visit Bozeman MT where people bike commute in the winter quite often.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I'm sorry but your going to need to backup the claim with actual evidence of the average tempreture in Ousa, Finland as well as the average time it takes for kids to get to school there because your claim means nothing because Ousa, Finland could be less cold on average then the person you're replying too

    Humans can be fine in cold weather for a certain amount of time and tempreture but it gets worser the colder it gets

    And your comment also ignores people who are less physically able and people who are more vulnerable to the cold due to health conditions

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If a full-face helmet works why not use one? You can also just skip the extremely cold days and use public transport instead. It doesn't have to be an all or nothing decision.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    Because instead of risking bodily injury I can be there in 10 minutes? Public transport in my town is a joke. I have to walk 5 minutes to the nearest bus stop, take it to the central station which is an hour, then another hour bus to work.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Could probably rock a balaclava in those temperatures. I bought one in anticipation of winter riding, but the coldest I've ridden this year is -11 C and it wasn't quite necessary yet at that point, but I was debating trying it out.

    Climate change is basically killing most of the cold days we have where I live so this is a problem I'm long-term apparently not going to have to deal with. Instead I will have to deal with the way worse type of weather - wet weather.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    Dude where I live climate change is making it snow less but get extremely cold (-40c/-40F) multiple times a season thanks to the destabilizing polar vortex. It's really interesting seeing how different places are impacted by climate change

    I suppose in the context of biking that makes it more viable though since you can always dress more appropriately for the weather but you can't out dress 12" of snow in front of your tires

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago*

    This ignores the fact that some people can't be out as long as others due to being less physically able or having a health condition that makes them more vulnerable to the cold

    This is why there still needs to be access to cars

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago

    Just wrap a scarf around your face and you will not be cold. Proper clothes is all you need to not even be uncomfortable.

    Riding in snow is also not an issue if you regularly bike. A good tire and practice and you will not fall.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    If the weather is bad enough, I will take transit instead, but cycling down to -10 C is doable without any problems.

    I will be far less inclined to bike if it's raining, that I do hate with a passion. Of course, I could just work from home in that scenario as well, if I don't feel like taking transit

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Was the removed word bitch (female dog) by any chance I wonder?

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Why did you ask if the removed word is removed?

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Looks like they shadow-remove the word

    Me logged in (via Sync): —

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    For some reason your comment appears uncensored to me, but the top commenter's is censored.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Probably because the uncensored comment isn't being posted from lemmy.ml, unlike the first post. Posting and viewing from the instance in question will probably censor every occurrence.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    If the cities are built for it, cycling doesn't become something where you're doing it for extended periods or distances. Neighborhoods that are setup for bikes means everything is local area, or mostly.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Rain is no problem, just get a proper jacket and rain pants. They'll last you years.

    Ice can be a problem, but you can get studded tires if you're really regularly riding on ice.

    Severe cold? I've biked in -20 weather, and with proper gear it's not bad. You're working hard and you heat up pretty quickly. The tricky things are your fingers and toes. Your fingers need enough freedom to operate the brakes and so on, so you can't just use huge and bulky gloves. If you're using clip-in pedals, your choice of footwear is a bit limited.

    The real issue with winter biking isn't the cold or the ice, it's the lack of proper cycling infrastructure. Biking on a road next to a bus is hard enough in summer. In winter where there's uncleared snow, slush and ice, it sucks. In places with proper winter cycling infrastructure it's no problem.

    Imagine how hard it would be to drive a car in winter if cities didn't send out snowplows to clear the roads. That's what it's like for cyclists now in most (but not all) places.

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