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Hexbear Proposals chapo.chat matrix room.

This will be a place for site proposals and discussion before implementation on the site.
Every proposal will also be mirrored into a pinned post on the hexbear community.

Any other ideas for helping to integrate the two spaces are welcome to be commented here or messaged to me directly.

Within Hexbear Proposals you can see the history of all site proposals and react to them, indicating a vote for or against a proposal.

Sending messages will be restricted to verified and active hexbear accounts older than 1 month with their matrix id in their hexbear user profile.

All top level messages within the channel must be a Proposals (idea for changing the site), Feedback (regarding non-technical aspects of the site, for technical please use https://hexbear.net/c/feedback), or Appeals (regarding admin/moderator actions).

Discussion regarding these will be within nested threads under the post.

To gain matrix verification, all you need to do is navigate to my hexbear userprofile and click the send a secure private message including your hexbear username.

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we fucked up (chapo.chat)
submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Hello users of hexbear, or shall i say chapo.chat, we fucked up, and i fucked up like three times making this post.

Yes, hexbear.net has expired. Yes, we were aware of this possibility. We have gradually lost contact with the access owner (prior admin) for the domain registration. We attempted to make a migration plan, but we were disarmed by the reappearance of the party in question in September 2024 and repeated assurances that they would a) transfer credentials and b) continue payments until they were able to do the former.

We accept full responsibility for this. We should have been more aggressive about this and continued our alternative despite these reassurances. This is our fuck up, and we can't offer anything besides our continued apologies and our plan of action going forward and an explanation of what happened:

Over the time of chapo.chat and hexbear.net the admins that purchased the domain, established the donation accounts, and the server accounts have left. One of the primary admins has gone inactive and returned many times, over a year ago some of the newer admins began asking the older admins to give full access to the domain, servers, and donations. These requests were not met, despite warnings of this exact event.

At the moment we do not have access to hexbear.net and there is a strong chance we will not get it back without participating in the auction, which is already over $300. Choosing to abandon the hexbear.net domain will cause federation problems and considerable technical issues which would lead to potential extended downtime.

During this downtime we would be reestablishing access to the new domain (or hexbear.net if we win the auction), access to server ownership, and donation accounts. This would be distributed among a number of admins so that we can prevent this from happening again.

Chapo.chat has the same access problem that led to the current state of hexbear.net so it is to be considered temporary.

I will do my best to answer questions

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (14 children)

Pinning @[email protected] comment:

True Hexbear Fedayeen have hexbear hard coded in their hosts file and are currently enjoying their beanis

On OSX/Linux just add 37.187.73.130 hexbear.net to the bottom of /etc/hosts and you'll get your beanis back.

On Windows its at C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts

On Phones it's much harder so all your beanis are lost.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd like to reignite the beanis struggle session to cover for CARCOSA on this one

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Call me silly, tell me to touch grass, but hexbear has been a big part of my life for a few years now.

I don't want to see anyone go away, and i have faith we'll be back up in whatever form before long. Yall have given me so much over the years, and been by my side as I grow, through all my ups and downs.

Idk, feels like i had more to say, but lost my train of thought. Outside hangin with the corgi rn.

I love you all, and can't wait until we're back in whatever form.

cuddle

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I don't think it's really a big deal beyond the work it'll take to fix things, honestly don't let yourselves get dragged into a bidding war with some lib or something that wants to fuck with us.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (27 children)

that is my personal stance, and i want to see what the community wants to be named

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

I propose hasan.lib

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

here are some domains that are unregistered:

hexbear.xyz
hexbear.chat
hexbear.red
hexbear.space
hexbear.club
hexbear.love
hexbear.lol
hexbear.earth
hexbear.farm
hexbear.fun
hexbear.gg
hexbear.land
hexbear.life
hexbear.quest
hex.horse
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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Doesn't seem worth it to buy the domain again and it sounds like we're looking at downtime no matter what.

On the bright side we have the opportunity to absolutely lose our fucking minds over renaming the site again.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Is it a coincidence that Matt Christman rejoined the podcast this year? And ChaCha rises again?

I think not. Trust the plan.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (64 children)

Please reply to this comment with name suggestions in the event we have to change from hexbear.net

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago (9 children)
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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

FINALLY! Finally it is time for hereshowberniecanstill.win cheer lets-fucking-go

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

hexbear.zone

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The intersection of capitalist exploitation and leftist infighting; a microcosm

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

At least we outlived kissinger

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

USAID funding gets slashed

Hexbear mysteriously loses access to the site owner

hmmm

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There’s one thing I’m sure of, when this is all over, “visit hexbear.net” is going to be added as an emote

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Please don't spend a single cent recovering the domain. The closing bid is probably going to be >$1000, which most of you probably couldn't afford anyways. What's done is done.

The way forward is to accept the lost of the domain name, come up with internal processes to make sure that retiring admins have to fork over the credentials, and either come up with another site name or reuse chapo.chat. Please don't try to attempt to outbid these libs and definitely do not make some humiliating backroom deal with those libs over the administration of this site for the sake of getting the domain back.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

chapo.chat has the same lack of access problem that hexbear.net has so i do not want to rely on it

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

About the donations, should people stop contributing to the liberapay/hexbear account?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (13 children)
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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (4 children)

When this happened did you say "oops" as that's what I'd do

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

I'd also consider a ruh r'oh raggy

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

collar tug while saying yikes

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

lmao, I guess it's time for bean dot is

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

Biggest struggle session ever incoming.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

pouring one out for all of the hexbears who don't know how to reconnect with the site

timmy-pray family-guy-death-pose

hope they find their way back to us some day

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I got 20 dollars that says some lib wins the bid and links the domain to the Tiananmen square massacre Wikipedia page to try and dunk on us lmao

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

Letting the hexbear domain ownership expire as a joke is not OKsquidward-scream-point

😔

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Omg this is so embarrassing.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

those USAID cuts messed us up /j

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

Just glad no one got arrested probably.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

beanis.org is available

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

this is unfortunate

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

The two wolves inside of me, of this being really funny, but also it making me sad.

I imagine a lot of people don't realize chapo.chat still works to connect, not sure if there's a good way to communicate that. Also I'm kind of curious what people are trying to win the bidding war for the domain. Likely no one good if I had to guess.

Wait, I just realized, the auction doesn't end for 9 days lol.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

when the site gets back up and running, please make the "visit hexbear.net" textbox that's replacing all the emojis rn into an actual emoji. maybe called like ":we-fucked-up:" or something

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you (admins) decide you do want to participate in the bidding war, I am willing to front the cash as long as it doesn't get too outrageous and we could set up donations afterwards for me to recoup what I can. I realize that it's like the lowest form of charitable donation imaginable, but a lot of people (myself included) get a lot of positive mental health benefits out of this community and I'd hate to see it lose a whole bunch of members because they weren't able to figure out what happened or where we all disappeared to.

Message me if you want to discuss it further.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

we have a plan to mitigate any security issues of losing hexbear.net and have a handful of people willing to pitch-in for the hexbear.net domain. we are exploring what it would look like to change domains, and as such want to involve the user base in what the name change would be. there are a number of folks interested in helping with the cost of obtaining hexbear.net so that is undoubtedly an option as well

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

if socialism was a website smuglord

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

A brand new type of completely unforced error. Exactly what I expect here

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can someone email me when the new URL is up? My email is [email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

🚨 Comment found elsewhere:

So this is a man-in-the-middle attack waiting to happen isn’t it? Buy the domain, setup a reverse proxy that points to the original hexbear server IP and start logging all requests.

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