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[–] [email protected] 123 points 1 week ago (8 children)
[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

This one (ETA: my '97 Prelude) sparks so much joy.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The best looking dials on a dashboard I have ever seen is the dashboard from the Saab 9000 CSE.

This isn't exacty what I remember, but close enough:

I love the green and orange colors, the car diagram, the turbo, temp and fuel dials are just great.

Granted I was a kid when we had that car, but the colors were beautiful

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)

That looks just like my Sunfire's dash, other than mph being more prominent than km/h and it redlining over 7k rpm.

Is that an S2000?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Nope. 5th gen Honda Prelude.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

So does this one.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

There reason this one and the analogue dials spark joy is because there's something tangible happening in front of us. Either needles are moving or lights are being lit.

The modern iPad display just feels... disconnected, I guess

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[–] [email protected] 92 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Touch screens have no business in dashboards. I don't care how sleek it looks to replace all the physical buttons. You have to look at a touch screen to use it. That alone makes them entirely unfit for the purpose. Physical buttons that can be identified by touch and provide tactile feedback are the only interfaces that make any fucking sense at all.

This fees like something so obvious that I cannot understand how we got here.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You touch the gauges behind your steering wheel?

[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 week ago (2 children)

How else should a blind man know how fast he is travelling?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Got a hearty chuckle out of me.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I love the potential of a digital dash.
I hate the wasted potential of actual digital dashes.

Let me fuckin customize it.
Let me put whatever gauges I want wherever I want. I know that the data is available over the CAN bus, let me fuckin see it.
Dynamically change the layout if something important happens I need to keep an eye on, but wouldn't normally need to worry about

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

Even more infuriating when not only is it not customisable, but they layout they do use is just... bad in a thousand different tiny ways.

For example, the tachometer and speedometer on my vehicle have two display modes. The traditional looking dials and a more compact vertical wheel that leaves more room in the middle of the display for other things.

...but those other things are almost always either useless (I don't need to see a little picture of the vehicle I'm driving), or actively worse (the media info screen actually shows fewer characters in the larger mode).

It's not unusable, it's just varying levels of awkward or useless in dozens of little aspects.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My Seat Leon has a digital dashboard, by pressing the "VIEW" button on the steering wheel it rotates between several different layouts, which can be customized.

I normally just have two normal dials, with a GPS map in the middle, fuel gauges to the left (because the standard place doesn't line up properly) and a media display to the right (shows what song/podcast is playing and the progress of it)

I can make my entire dash be a giant GPS map display, with only a small digital speedometer readout, but that is annoying.

These new digital dashboards offer plenty of customizations, but the formfactor should be the same as a normal dash

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I am partial to the windshield projection style. It is truly fantastic for keeping your eyes on the road while seeing your speed

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm dying for good windshield HUDs

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Volkswagen has a pretty awesome one but it costs like 10k more for that level of trim.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The two-tiered cluster of my Civic really grew on me. The speedometer is up really high so it's almost always in your line of sight.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I get having a digital cluster, because you can display way more information than using analog gauges.

Put it in front of the driver.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also, make the text bigger.

So many displays have tiny, hard to read text that could easily be twice as tall and wide without even impacting the blank space that separates them.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

108 in a 30. Someone speeding that much has no time for a ticket.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

Someone speeding that much won't be having much time left in general.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Marques Brownlee?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I guess I'm in the minority: I prefer to see my speed as a number instead of a dial.

Yes, it does need to be in front of the driver.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (5 children)

An advantage of a proper dial is that you can instinctively see the change in speed by how quickly the needle moves.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't understand how anyone can buy a Tesla. The lack of a dashboard + the only interface being a tablet alone are a deal breaker for me.

You're being sold a feature that is really just massive cost cuttings playing impostor as a luxury feature at a premium with 100x worse usability.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (7 children)

watching 80s and 90s anime has given me a soul-deep admiration for mechanical dials of any kind. I like high-tech shit, but it's gotta have low-tech dials, or I'm out.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I hate that cars are just smart phones on wheels now. Do any auto makers still make cars with the old style and not all these screens and crap?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I was so happy when I saw some modern KIAs use analog controls.

Then I checked KIAs reliability and safety score and died.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

No idea what that bottom driver is doing, but it indeed does not spark joy

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Lmao, high beams, no seatbelt at 108kph for a 30kph speed limit. Ooof.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

It’s a screenshot from MKBHD’s latest video.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If dial gauges weren't what you chuckleheads grew up with (I'm 38 so I understand the nostalgia) you'd realize they aren't really all that well designed. There's no reason they go as high as they do, especially when they were "capped" at 85, and they display a terrible amount of information for the amount of space they take up.

I dislike many digital dashboards, not because they don't interface well or they don't look good, but because I can't customize them to my own liking. I want my average speed, instantaneous speed, average miles per gallon, instantaneous miles per gallon, range, engine temperature, music track, outside temperature, inside temperature, tire pressure, time, vehicle orientation, all at once. They're normally all available, but hidden in different menus and screens. Put it all out there, I'll learn where to look for the info I want. And let people who desire less info have the ability to set up their dashboard for that as well.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

A dial gauge can impart certain information that other ways cannot. I can notice a sudden change in movement without looking directly down, or see certain patterns of movement that simple numbers won't. An old example of the loss of that was found in some classic luxury cars (my grandmother had a Cadillac that I noticed it in). The speedometer wasn't a dial, it was an analog bar that would go right to left as your speed increased. It was very hard to judge change of speed by this, much like it's hard to see from a few digital numbers that rapidly change. I've also noticed that even digital dial gauges can suffer from this if their refresh isn't fast enough to simulate an analog accurately.

Doesn't mean you can't get used to a display or find other ways to get the same input, but dials aren't just old nostalgia, they do have advantages. I would bet for some measurements an analog multimeter is preferred over a digital, and vise versa.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Dials and digital displays are like clocks, the position can relay a lot of additional contextual information that doesn't come from a simple number.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Car manufacturers could've used the example of an aircraft. Their primary flight display shows speed nicely with current speed, good indication of changes in speed, settings like cruise control and max speed all in one clean display. I'd prefer that one. But no, it's not even an option of course.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

In my opinion, the worst part about new cars is that they are essentially tracking devices and some of them can be remotely controlled.

Any suggestions on how to get a car that doesn't track you and was built post-2010?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Honestly I'd kill for a digital dashboard that easy to read. Most are way worse.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Hard disagree. It is SO much faster for me to read a digital number readout than a analogue one.

This isn't touch screen controls (which are terrible). It's a readout.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Does it spark as much as a Star Trek high-tech panel?

If not, it's not futuristic enough.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

No, the top one sparks gasoline. And the bottom one sparks ... I don't know how electric cars work.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Speak for yourself. I'd love an easy to read screen.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

My car doesn't have any of that fancy crap, but the fuel gage is an lcd and I hate it so much. Like it should be fine, except it just doesn't work at certain temperatures and I live in an area where that means half the year.

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