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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

These bigoted, ignorant scum will never listen to anything. They are politically illiterate infants with an allergic reaction to reading.

They have ruined a safe space cultivated and cared for, they have turned this place into a new reddit.

I had a dude in my private messages going on about how I was both mutilating myself and other children. Many more people on hexbear have had similar experiences, with these worthless ignorant scum popping in to deliver the political equivalent of a giant shit.

As your friends, comrades, and people you say you defend get slurred at, dehumanized, and harassed please ask yourself:

Is it worth it?

I have the answer, I know you know it as well:

No its not

I used to think otherwise

I was a fool

its not worth a few laughs

even if you dunk all you want, that doesn't take away the knife those people put in our backs.

These bigots, fascists, and NATO liberals are as worthless offline as they are here, why should we give them any attention. They are worth less than the dirt beneath our fingernails. Why should we poison ourselves with their influence? We don't make any room for them offline, why should we not online?

And really

How many essays have your written?

How many sources have you combed through?

How many times have you explained the most basic facts of reality?

How many attempts at good faith?

Only for them to dismiss it in their stupidity. They don't read it, they just crumble and divert back to the programming these little shits trust in more than God.

For every time there is a good faith user, there are a dozen scumbag fascists. And most of the time, the "good faith one" just reverts back to their old shit.

Do you really think losing any member of the hexbear or lemmygrad community, longtime members or not, is worth a few good dunks?

I don't believe a small chance of gaining a new user is worth alienating an entire section of the community. The vast majority of those idiots are lost causes. If they are interested, the can just make an account and ask in good faith.

Is posting a meme to "own the liberals" worth your comrades getting more trauma from bigots harassing them?

No its not.

you've had your laugh, but it should end

Ban them all, SJW, lemm.ee, lemmy, the programmer nazi edglords. Keep Lemmygrad.

Defederate from those communities. We shouldn't sacrifice our own for more clicks. For having to subject ourselves to the opinions of people thoroughly brainwashed? We aren't reddit. We came here to get away from that. I'm sick of this. We are sick of this.

End it now

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

Letting people line up outside your house to take a hot steaming shit on the floor on the off-chance you’ll be able to convince one of them not to take a shit

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't wanna defed, but I'm confused when other instances say we're doing something entirely annoying or obnoxious. The only thing I notice is that we're a lot more active.

Do they not like seeing swear words or what? I've seen lot of claims we go off topic as well. I don't really understand it. I think there might be some kind of generational gaps, because many of the other users are perhaps more middle aged, as in aged 55 and older. One user said we're like a bunch of obnoxious kids having a rave party inside a library. Another said we're like maladjusted 5 year olds on meth.

I find my hexbearians to be generally chill and well-adjusted, so what gives?

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago

i feel vindicated for being wary of it from the beginningsmuglord

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Defederating now is like stopping at Berlin.

We will bury the libs in a tide of pig poop balls.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

FWIW even though I've been kinda shitposting in here, DM harassment is way beyond the pale and I uncritically support nuking anyone and anywhere that's coming from

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I hope hexbear doesn't defederate. Ya'll are pretty cool. Lemmy has been better since.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are a hilarious poster fibby, but the amount of bigotry and cryptofascism encountered in federation lately has been almost radioactive

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

I'm so sorry you gotta deal with shitty people in your personal messages. I get why you want to defed. I just have some wishful thinking that this will all work out, somehow.

At the end of the day, I'm going to keep my lemm.ee account. But if Hexbear defeds from everyone, I'm joining the darkside.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was in support of it but federation is bringing out the worst in us. I'm seeing quite a bit more slack given with ableism and some other things we wouldn't have allowed here before. We can do better.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, need more TC69 Thought.

Gonna steal my own stolen bit and post it here.

It's outrageous, where's the TC69-thought that comes and bans everybody right away? This would never have been an issue on chapo.chat. Used be that if you did a transphobia you got banned. Liberals... We had a special ban for Liberals. Racism: banned right away, right away. You're being anti-communist: banned, sectarian: banned right away. Being too debatebroey: banned, not being debatebroey enough: also banned. You're being too fast at responding: banned. being too slow: banned. You start a thread and then don't respond to people answering you? Banned. You upvote hornyposts about transpeople: Banned. You don't upvote hornyposts about transpeople? Believe it or not, also banned. We had the best posters in the world, and it was because of ban.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

I liked pre-federated Hexbear more. It was more fun talking with people who I knew were good faith without having to deal with a ton of dumb hogs. Making fun of libs is fun and all but it's getting old. And to add if there are assholes harassing our users we should defederate.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I’ve been on hexbear since the day it started (obviously not from this account) and I’m about to just give it up completely.

The bad memes alone were almost enough to make the feed unusable, but even when I’m using local only mode I have to read the worst takes imaginable from people off site.

I left Reddit when we got the boot from there and realized it was good for me, but this just feels like going back and now I can completely understand why it sucked.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I had warned of exactly this happening when the federation discussion thread was still up. The site culture will change, and the process is irreversible (so long as we remain federated). The people who like the chapo era shitposting will love the change, but the people who seek the unique vibe of Hexbear will find themselves losing that space. There will be new people who join and old people who leave, which changes the composition and the culture of the forum. People told me back then that you can just stay out of it by not activating the All tab, but this is clearly not true.

For the record, I am for the federation, but I had asked that a contingency plan be made for people who find peace in the unique culture of this forum who clearly doesn’t want to be bothered with Reddit style liberalism.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah I found it odd we federated with them. I'd not heard anything good about SJW and I gotta admit the name seemed to activate my dogwhistle senses.

I enjoyed dunking on them, but if they're going to participate in targeted harassment of individual users, then defederate we must. I'm sorry they did this to you.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

Respectfully, I do disagree. I've seen a huge amount of federated users reconsider their ways with our presence. I've hung about on various account for years, but I'm not sure I want to go back to closed-loop hexbear, I forget how the minorest of things because huge pointless arguments, and now we have actual important points to correct again. The 'old' relationship was never as fun as you remember it.

Although splitting is rarely a fun idea, given that Lemmy is an all-or-nothing federation affair, maybe splitting into federated and non-federated sites is the answer.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

not lemmygrad, lemmygrad has never done us wrong

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

sh.itjust.works loser admins: Let's have a sham thread where everyone votes for defederation but we vote no so we still get freeze peach cred

Hexbear beautiful admins: Get fucked assholes

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Well yeah, they're liberals. Bloodthirsty bigots that are convinced they're the opposite due to cultural hegemony.

Also cowards.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (7 children)

100% agree. federation has made this site much worse with next to no benefits. @[email protected] please hold a vote on full defederation

Death to America

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

FWIW, I love y’all and am always delighted to see a hexbear user on the broader lemmyverse. If federation is turning what should be a safe place into a vector for harassment, though…

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