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This 🔥 is what socialists meant when we said Bernie was the "compromise candidate" (hexbear.net)
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Here is the context.

Colin Jost's look of contempt and incredulity is both cringe-inducing and beautiful to see because it's a sign that the ruling class is losing the narrative.

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[–] [email protected] 100 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Me in 2016: A Bernie Sanders presidency is a narrow window in which we can take the offramp before the worst of climate change and eco-fascism.

Me in 2020: Even if Bernie wins, things are still going to be pretty rough and probably the best we can hope for is that he pulls the boot off the throat of the Global South enough that humanity has a chance.

Me in 2024: luigi-dance

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

The way the comments there are all cheering for Luigi this far after the event, on the official SNL channel, is pretty crazy (good).

Propaganda of the Deed has a bad efficacy historically, and it’s no replacement for organized action, but I kinda wonder if the dynamics of it are different now compared to the last cycle of it.

Now, with mass media constantly barraging people with the man and the event, reminding them of it, and the juxtaposition of the ruling class commentary and their own experiences, it seems like it’s sorta working more?

Though I’m sure if similar actions become more widespread, responses would be more mixed.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it seems like it’s sorta working more

The lower classes have always been vaguely supportive of or at least not opposed to terrorism whether it was 19th century anarchists or 20th century guerillas. The problem is that assassination and other forms of terrorism have never moved the masses into action. People might agree that the victim got what they deserved, but they're just voicing the opinion they already had - that health insurance companies are evil - and historically there's no evidence that an assassination will spur them to act on that thought.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Oh I agree, I don’t think this is going to spark wide action. But I do think the dissonance between what they’re being told and what they’re feeling might be crystallizing a bit of class consciousness, rather than just satisfaction at the man’s death.

Like to use those comments as an example, it’s not just people lionizing Luigi. It’s also people talking about Jost being too rich to understand and about corporate overlords. It’s people actually starting to think about the wealthy having different interests to them, even if it’s only baby steps.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yea it's more the media coverage of the event that is stirring class consciousness than the assassination.

If the cops and MSM had just shut up about it and treated it like any other shooting people would have shrugged and moved on.

Instead they are stuck in a feedback loop of obviously defending capital owners and pushing back on how the public feels which garners attention and gets more people talking about it which leads to them having to cover it again.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

That's a really good point. I actually thought the best way they had to take the air out of the situation was to say it was a professional hit and had nothing to do with with getting revenge for obvious reasons. People would still hate that CEO. But now they've got a bona-fide folk hero (whether he actually did it or is a patsy)

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago

Gig economy-ing the revolution seems like a very 21st century western way of doing it.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 day ago

most of the time this kind of thing doesn't bother me but the huge red circle around the only comment on a cropped screenshot is driving me batty

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago

Thank you for the big red circle I almost missed the comment

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

I fucking hate Jost's pete face

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago

New tagline?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wait, Colin is a shithead? Somewhat unsurprising from a show that gave us Joe Pesci's reaction to Sinead O'Connor's performance

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

I have seen some people suggest that in the broader context this is part of this bit he’s doing and the whole thing doesn’t really make him seem for or against Luigi in any clear way. I’m not going to watch SNL to figure it out for certain, though.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Colin Jost's look of contempt and incredulity is both cringe-inducing and beautiful to see because it's a sign that the ruling class is losing the narrative.

Huh... he is part of it? Oh wait, it's SNL...

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He's rich.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago

Idk why but I thought he was satirizing himself, not genuinely being contemptuous of the shooter sadness

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I found a YouTube link in your post. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy: