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submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

I got an email about support ending in October 2025; isn't this still extremely early? Aren't they usually about two or three versions of windows down the line before they end updates?

I don't want windows 11 (and no I don't want Linux either, knock it off); this is ridiculous.

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[-] [email protected] 57 points 7 months ago

and no I don't want Linux either, knock it off

Sweetie, you need your Linux medicine 💊... Take the fucking pill or it'll be injections!!! marx-angry

[-] [email protected] 46 points 7 months ago

stalin-shining You WILL use the people's OS, proprietary software belongs in museums libretion

[-] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago

The only thing that stops me from using Linux is that I'll miss out on the satisfaction of stealing it.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago

Redhat charges for support. Steal that.

[-] [email protected] 43 points 7 months ago

I don't want Linux either, knock it off

[-] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Ikr? It's like "I don't want to eat this pile of dogshit, but I also don't want to eat any of this actual food you're offering to me for free either, knock it off!" Ok then, I guess you can just starve, your choice. shrug-outta-hecks

[-] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Reminds me of the "Linux users are the vegans of software"

Yes, vegans are always right penguin-love

[-] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago
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[-] [email protected] 42 points 7 months ago

I don't want windows 11

Hey, you should try L—

(and no I don't want Linux either, knock it off)

Pouting anime girl. Specifically Sunao Nako in the second episode of Hitoribocchi no Marumaruseikatsu.

[-] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago

Yes, and yeah it's ridiculous, especially when there are a decent chunk of computers that can't upgrade. Death to Bill Gates, Death to Microsoft.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You can install 11 with a quick registry edit. I've been running 11 for over a year this way on a ryzen 1600 (not even an old CPU) without any issue. This proves they're absolutely going to bat for the likes of netflix and disney+ in their perpetually losing war against piracy. Like I've never not been able to acquire an episode of a popular show on a streaming service within 24 hours, so what's all this even for?

[-] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

It's Microsoft's continual march in the direction of adding more ads, and more spyware into Windows.

[-] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago

Without Win 11 or Linux (you really should... no no nevermind...) I think you fall into the category of "fucked." macOS exists but it's hugely overpriced (of course I won't argue their hardware is usually very high end, feels and look great. Software is ok, although I never feel like macs are "built to do anything" other than iMessage (which I have a phone for) and browse the internet in a visually appealing way (which isn't worth $2K). I also refuse to buy one for access to full Apple development. That's monopolistic bullshit that should've been crushed a decade ago.

Anyway, Win 11 and 10 are effectively the same. I don't know why people started acting like 11 was so dogshit and 10 was fine. They're both kinda dogshit. Overbloated, poorly optimized dogshit. MS crammed BING! into every corner of it along with their "straight to the NSA" cloud shit which I would never use even if it was 100TB for free. Ok, maybe then...

[-] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago

If there's one thing capitalism loves almost as much as slavery, it's planned obsolescence

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[-] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago

Yes, MS is getting more aggressive in their end of life terms for the general availability channel releases (Home, Pro). Use Windows 10 LTSC (EOL 2027) or Windows 10 IoT LTSC (EOL 2032) to avoid this.

Download the one you want from here: https://massgrave.dev/windows_ltsc_links

Optionally, you can customise the install media using NTLite if you want to automate customisation/debloating. Test in a VM first before deploying.

Once installed, activate using https://massgrave.dev/ using the HWID option.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

no I don't want Linux either, knock it off

That's fine, all you have to do is go is copy paste this command line prompt and download this obscure third-party software and edit this registry entry and toggle these boxes and turn off updates and download this specific unlisted windows version and install it from scratch and disable this thing in your BIOS and set a custom group policy for your user and...

[-] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago

Windows 7 was so good, the fact they came out with windows 10 shortly after, and then windows 11 shortly after that one and decided yup, 11 is the one we want to have longevity with keeps Microshit winning. What a great company.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago

I don't want windows 11 (and no I don't want Linux either, knock it off); this is ridiculous.

Then get ready to pay the Apple Tax.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

The Apple tax is more than made up for with all the bullshit you have to put with on Winblow

[-] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

Oh yeaaah, it’s Linux time 😎

[-] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

My brother has to reformat a laptop because the is petition isn't big enough for windows 11, and it's 80 gigs

[-] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

But how else will Windows 11 mine crypto in the background?

[-] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

I wish I could migrate our whole network to Linux but sadly that's not how it works. I dread deploying windows 11.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

Windows Vista, 7, 8, and 8.1 all had 10-year support spans like this, it's just the fact that Microsoft has slowed down releases that makes it feel shorter. You can chill on W10 LTSC until 2032 if you really want. W11 Pro will allow you to get rid of most annoying things via group policy.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

Even though i have no gaemz, my video card drivers are barely working, my RAM randomly shits itself, and I smell burning whenever I charge my headphones through the USB, I still laugh at windows users desperately cling to their spyware OS. Yeah, enjoy your video games.

Sure, the closest thing to entertainment Linux offers is firing up Gimp and hoping it doesn't spontaneously combust your hard drive, but at least I'm free!

[-] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

At least we got gimp 3 before GTA VI kitty-cri

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Y'all "I don't want to learn Linux, it is hard :(" people are about to either learn that the reading isn't actually very hard, or that the hoops you'll have to continuously jump through to make shitty Windows barely functional is actually hard AND incredibly annoying.

There are only two paths from here. Good luck

[-] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Download windows 9

[-] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

I can't figure out why my PC doesn't meet the requirements

[-] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

Windows 11 requires a CPU that includes a "trusted platform module" (TPM), which basically just adds boot-time crypto support in hardware and is supposed to help cut down on stuff like boot sector and firmware-based malware. Older CPUs didn't have the version of TPM required by Win11 (TPM 2.0), so this is planned obsolescence biting us all in the ass, as well as a personal "fuck you" from Microsoft to AMD first-gen Ryzen owners.

Intel has supported TPM 2.0 since the 8th gen (e.g., the i7-8700K generation) and AMD has supported it since the Ryzen 2000/Zen+ series (e.g., Ryzen 7 2700).

I guess they wanted to make sure that all of the spyware uses signed code and comes from a "trusted" source.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

I have an 11th generation i5 I think

[-] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Ah, weird. If TPM is disabled in BIOS, that will do it.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Thanks ill look at that

[-] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

You should try FreeBSD /jk

I think you can shut off updates right before EoL on Windows 10 and avoid upgrading to 11 but over time your system will probably gradually become less secure. If you use it in a safe manner, I think you should mostly be ok though. You might start seeing support end for some of the software you use but that probably won't be any time soon.

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

There’s people who already commented how to avoid the update by changing to ltsc or just not doing it. But how will you get security updates?

There’s a company called 0patch that makes em. They don’t even need a restart to apply like the ms ones do. It’s ~$25 a year.

The alternative is to switch to a mac, which isn’t a bad choice tbh once you can tank the buy-in.

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