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Here's the problem:

• After spending 4 years saying that our elections are secure, how do you start a serious investigation into this without sounding like whining hypocrites at best?
• Even if you prove to be 100% in the right, do you honestly think that you're going to get people to believe it?
• Even if you prove to be 100% in the right, doesn't that also just prove that our elections really aren't secure and can be manipulated pathetically easily?
• The number of people needed to pull a stunt like this off would be in the thousands. Yet, not a single person has come forward and talked? Not a single election worker saying "Hey, I opened up a box of ballots to count, and all of them were just votes for Trump and nobody else." Not a single worker tasked with tracking the shipment of these ballots reporting any anomalies? Remember. Every state went redder. You don't think that in blue states like California or even purple states like Wisconsin, that if there were any anomalies they wouldn't be screaming about it on social media before they were done unpacking the damn box?
• Wouldn't this have just lead to several anomalies in the voting count in at least some cities? Bulk cramming votes by the tens or even hundreds of thousands would surely lead to the number of votes cast in some states or counties being higher than the number of registered voters.
• How do you prove that it wasn't just a bunch of low-information Trump voters showing up just to support him, not caring about the other downballot races?

Personally, I'd rather stick with the narrative that our elections are safe and secure, and the US voters simply voted against their own interests. The best we could hope for beyond that is the GOP saying that the election was stolen in 2020, the Democrats saying it was stolen in 2024, and nobody believing our elections are secure at all heading into 2026 and 2028.

And even if you want to put all of that aside. A stunt like this would make Mission Impossible seem like Sesame Street by comparison. Think of the work it would take on a national level to pull this off with absolutely nobody talking and without a trace. Now look at the people Trump has leading the charge. What in the name of Jesus's favorite camel makes you think that any of those fuckwits have the mental capacity to pull that off?

These claims have little to no basis in reality and should be immediately disregarded just like Trump's claims of 2020. The fact of the matter is that we lost.

EDIT: People are saying these were digital counts that were manipulated. The argument still stands, though. For that argument to be valid, that would mean that our elections are so insecure that Trump and the brainworm crew were able to hack into voting systems nationwide, en masse, and without anybody noticing. Thousands of people would still have to be involved. There would be a digital trace showing something happened, even if we couldn’t figure out exactly what or by whom. Someone would have made a human error that would stick out like a sore thumb. Digitally or physically, you are not pulling that kind of stunt at that level without anybody noticing, particularly not those lead paint eaters.

The number of people only voting for Trump and leaving the rest of the ballot blank is super weird. Seems like a great reason to do one of those hand recounts the GOP loves.

Call your reps about this people. I'm calling Senator Bennett's office on Monday. Can't hurt.

I laughed my ass off at the pathetic, baseless attempts to dispute the 2020 election, but never questioned their legal right to do so (which they failed miserably at). If suspicious Harris supporters believe they have convincing evidence of manipulation, then let their claims be examined and proven or disproven by a recount or in a court of law. Call it copium, but I'd rather check these claims out and be disappointed than pre-emptively assume they're bullshit.

Aaaaand what are the chances this will happen?

The tell:  A historically absurd number of Trump-only bullet ballots or undervote ballots.

There are always a handful of voters who cast a vote in one race which they care about, and do not make other selections on the ballot.  These are called bullet ballots.  In Presidential Races since 1980, these bullet ballots rarely account for more than 1% of the total votes including in Mr. Trump’s winning 2016 election and losing 2020 election, and when they do it warrants further investigation.  In 2024 in the 43 non-swing states, bullet ballots make up a nominal >1%.   In the seven swing states the numbers are so high to be unbelievable, unprecedented and demanding of further investigation.  Here is analysis from totals as of late Nov. 12th

Here are the unprecedented results of drop-offs in the two western swing states:

AZ - 123K+ 7.2%+ of Trump’s total vote.  Enough to reverse the outcome.

NV -   43K+ 5.5%+ of Trump’s total vote.  Enough to exceed recount threshold.

It is my belief these two states have illegally added votes.  

For comparison, examine Trump’s 2024 results in three states which border AZ and NV.  They have equally passionate Trump supporters, but have the normal levels of drop off or bullet ballots.

ID     <2K      0.03% of Trump’s total.

OR   <4K      0.05% of Trump’s  total

UT    <1K      0.01% of Trump’s total.

In the case of Idaho and Utah, Mr. Trump was a run-away winner and had no need to add votes.  In the case of Oregon, Ms. Harris was a run-away winner and adding votes to Trump’s total would add risk without adding value.   

The same pattern of large numbers of drop-off votes or bullet ballots exists in the totals of MI, NC, PA, WI.

123,000 Arizonans voted only for President & nobody else? That is weird.

I hate to say it, but this seems like copium. I’d love to be wrong about that.

He’s gonna destroy the country anyway; fuck it in say we try. If the numbers in this article are accurate, then anomalies exist. Might as well find out if it’s a “nothing burger”

Might as well do the check - you sure as fuck aren't going to be able to check anything out in 2028, if we even hold an election that year.

Do the check, see where the info leads, no brainer

I'm not experienced enough to know for sure if those claims would truly hold water, but to my layman mind, it sure does sound like a compelling case to at least do a hand count.

When Mr. Musk announced his $1M lottery for people to go online and sign a pledge to vote for Trump, I became personally suspicious of why such a promotion would be done.  I signed up to see what information he wanted and what the pledge actually stated.  He did not want to know people’s socials or send them texts.  To sign up you had to provide your street address. That was all they cared about.  Once they had the people’s names, and street address this would allow for building a pool of ghost voters who could logically be marked for fake ballots, structured in a manner which matched ePollBook and precinct data.

Elmo surely wouldn’t try such a thing.

I mean, check it out just to rule out the possibility, I guess. The letter spells out how to determine whether this was the case or not - do a hand recount.

people don't understand computers or hacking just like they don't understand global warming or math

all they need is 1 0day exploit to get the code for the machines

and 1 0 day exploit on the machines

the idea that it's impossible or unlikely now is absurd, justlike the idea it was impossible in 2020 was absurd, which is why it was so apalling to call the Jan 6 protesters insurrectionists instead of protesters

I believe this man. Some countries with an interest in this election have brilliant hackers,just beyond what I could ever understand, but I'm not a programmer or hacker, just someone who likes linux

no one will believe or understand this person, just like no one will believe in global warming and stop believing in jesus until climate ecological collapse

oh well