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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The reality is even worse. They're going to "learn" all the wrong lessons. They will shift further to the right, like they always do.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Yep, every time Dems can't get enough votes from the left to win, because they aren't "left/pure enough" for them, what they learn is to shift to the right to find votes.

Whereas since voters on the right will always vote for the one with the R by their name even if they don't think the candidate is "right enough", their party learns that it doesn't have to move to the left to find enough votes and stays to the right or moves even further to the right.

[–] [email protected] 116 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

So angry this isn’t even satire.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 hours ago

I think it counts as satire, even if the headline is a completely true statement.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 hours ago

seriously. they'll have a LOT more believable articles for the next few years.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

I think the only thing to learn from this is that if Jesus himself came down and ran as a democrat, Trump would make jokes about crucifixes and the religious right would start cheering. There is no crossing party lines

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago

I think the only thing to learn from this is that [vehemently ignores everything the Dems did wrong]

This article is about and for you, fool.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Oh c’mon, Kamala was pretty far from Jesus, and Trump and co. are no political masterminds. This was the dems race to lose and they brilliantly pulled it off by exhibiting what can only be described as an active disdain for anything that even smelled like progressive politics. Turns out you can’t win on “the other guy is worse.” They fucked up and lost fair and square.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Look, the Democrats are not good at running campaigns, but I will never let that obscure the fact that OVER 75 MILLION Americans were ready, willing, and able to vote for a proven rapist, convicted criminal, openly racist, riot-starting adult crybaby. Not grudgingly -- they went to the polls with a song in their hearts and blood in their eyes! The fucking Democrats didn't cause that -- 12 years of Fox News telling people that DJT was God, and four years of blaming COVID and inflation on desperate economic migrants did that.

Even IF the Democrats have enough of a base to overwhelm those +75m hateboner-stroking bigots, well they knew what's at stake and STILL stayed home. (No doubt smirking at how cleverly they avoided any moral contagion via the brilliant gambit of continuing to pay taxes but not casting a vote 🙄 .) Regardless of all that, I don't blame them for Trump's win either, because there shouldn't have been +75 million Trump-lovers to overwhelm in the first fucking place.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 46 minutes ago (1 children)

Yeah, but that's democracy. Those 75+ million people wanted something, and they voted for it, and they got it. Anything else is irrelevant. There's no asterisk in the Constitution with a footnote that says the election is invalid if one side consists of hateboner-stroking bigots. If Democrats want something different, then they have to convince enough people to show up and vote for something different. They have to get good at public messaging and at running campaigns. Righteous indignation changes nothing whatsoever.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 minutes ago

Well of course the election was still valid. Brainwashed Fox News/X misinformation junkies' votes count just as much as a good person's does. More actually, thanks to the high concentration of fools in low-population states and with too many electoral votes. My issue is that a massive propaganda machine is permitted to exist, such that +75 million walking dildos are now convinced that Biden created greedflation and gave all their tax money to dog-eating immigrants, and Fauci should be executed for treason because he forced children to get vaxxed(?).

Dismantling that machine should be job #1 -- it should have been since Al Franken wrote Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot. But I guess it's fucking impossible to shut off the machine that keeps stamping out Republican and IINO voters. And with at least a hundred years of MAGA rule ahead of us, I suppose it always will be.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 43 minutes ago* (last edited 42 minutes ago)

That's exactly it. It's hard to admit that almost half the voting population is totally on board with trump--his "flaws" are not a bug, they're a feature. He increased the size of his base, bringing in millions of Latinos, Gen Z men, and men of all races. It's not that they simply hate the Dems, it's that they love what trump is offering. In spite of that it there did exist enough more voters that don't like trump (it would have taken 5 million more) to stop him, but they either didn't give a shit or they wanted it to happen (to "punish" the dems). That's the reality.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Its not even the dems. Its the dnc. Who actually voted for biden or kamala as the person, of all democrats, to be the representative? The two party system has literally led to the death of America.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 41 minutes ago (1 children)

If it was just the fact of a two party system, why did it take over 200 years to do it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 32 minutes ago

Every system breaks down, given sufficient time

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 hours ago

Which is crazy. In most countries, all parties are despised. In US, it is more like sports team.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Democrats have to be deft and diplomatic and do the right things all the time that somehow appeal to all the Americans (including Americans on opposite sides like Palestine supporters and Israel supporters) and they lose if they fumble even a little bit.

Unlike the MAGA party of bigots who can't lose no matter how much of dipshits they are.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago

I disagree. At the risk of oversimplifying, American voters tend to respect strength of conviction, even if they don't always agree with the policy, over milquetoast candidates. That's why Sanders attracted so many voters who went on to vote for the other party's candidate in the general election. Democrats need to decide what they believe in, and say it long, loud, and proud.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

Bro BFFR Dems had Dick and Liz Cheney endorsing her, exactly what part of their base is a war criminal and his nepo baby supposed to appeal to?

Edit to add: this is who they sent to stump for Harris in Michigan and other swing states btw

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

She also had Taylor Swift, Bernie Sanders, Obama, Mark Cuban, multple military generals endorsing her, among others.

But sure, it was the Cheneys that outweighed everyone else. That's the problem, not American voters who didn't think 'holy shit everyone across the sociopolitical landscape is coming together supporting her, trump is that much of a serious threat'.

Great work👍

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

I mean she chose to spend the last weeks essentially campaigning with the cheneys that's different than just an endorsement when they star in dozens of rallies.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 hours ago

You're in the headline, btw.

It's insane to me how Democrats keep appealing to the right, when their historically greatest turnout has been galvanizing their base like with Obama.

And yes, a war criminal's endorsement is more important to me than a pop star's. One of them actually works in policy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

For real, all these people blaming democrats for not winning when billionaires were literally buying votes to not be taxed by democrats. Seems like a campaign.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

That tiny minority of never trumpers

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

The same ones they had in 2020 because it turns out only 5% of Republicans know what republicanism is.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Theyre not the ones that need to learn. Voters need to learn DNC is a bunch of wealthy moderates grifting voters.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

What if the DNC privately wins by making sure their candidate loses?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 hours ago

It’s going to be really fun to see them dust off the same exact playbook next time around, I already have two copies of it, I use one to even out the table in my kitchen, and the other I use the pages to pick up my dogs shit in the yard.”

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 hours ago

So far what I have learned about what Kamala has learned is:

It is now the darkest night in America.

But...

There are billions of stars you can only see at night!

...

You know, faint, distant glimmers from long, long ago, that you can squint at and imagine they form coherent, stable, meaningful structures... which are not, and never really were there at all.

...

I do not know if she was intentionally attempting to invert/reference Reagan's 'Morning in America' and HW's 'Thousand points of light', or if she somehow thought this was an original, meaningful metaphor.

Either would be pathetic and disgusting.

...

Anyway, quite literally that may have been how democracy in America died, to another speech of meaningless platitudes, ending with thunderous applause, congratulating that a failed struggle was worth it, because even though it failed, it played by the rules and was gracious in defeat.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

What's the thing that will send you websites at a set date in the future? Wanna take bets and look at this 4 years from now to the day?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

you could use the futureme website

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

No idea but just use email schedule send to yourself. No need to rely on something that might stop working then, unless you use some dodgy email that's likely to close down.