Need a video that's just Nancy Pelosi calling Republicans her friends, along with her calls for a strong Republican party. She got what she wanted.
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Important Bsky post laying out that the Dems are cold war fossils and HATE their base.
https://bsky.app/profile/sovereignbeast.bsky.social/post/3ladyvif5vi2c
If your state itemizes write-ins (like, all of them. Not many do), these things read like a message board lmao.
https://www.bergencountyclerk.gov/_Content/pdf/ElectionResult/write-ins%2011_7_24_signed.pdf
Free Palestine with ten votes. 👍
at least three votes for Yahya Sinwar
Liz Cheney got at least 24 votes lol
STINKY FROM MCDINKY
I've been saying this for over a year, but: I will not vote for a candidate who would rather threaten me with fascism than say "okay maybe we should tone down the genocide", who is willing to risk open fascism to keep the guns flowing, who gives their finest most bloated cutting edge weapons of murder to the literal Hitler apologist neo Nazi piece of shit actively on trial for genocide he admits to like every five minutes, and old outdated crap we would otherwise be throwing away to Ukraine¹.
Like, putting aside the fact she's a legendarily transphobic cop, and nothing short of personally going down in culturally aware and exceptionally competent ways on every single trans adult in the country would make me forget that long enough to vote for her, these chucklefucks were never going to be the bulwark of democracy. They did not question the extremely suspicious election results² the open election interference or more than half assedly prosecute the violent coup. The defenders of liberal democracy would have had gallows up on January 7. Elon musk would have been hung drawn and quartered by now, and it would have been shown on cspan, mandatory viewing in every school in the nation. None of this is surprising, for those of us who remember 2000. I've been telling people the libs would roll over for belly rubs at the slightest excuse for years, that they're not worth voting for, because they will not even attempt to hold the line. They have affirmed that this was the right decision.
Bringing on the Clinton and starmer teams as advisors was just a declaration that they wanted to lose. Actual democracy can involve a vote, but it is at best a small part of it, and I don't believe its valid here. The strict adherence to voting is a failure of imagination, a failure of volition, and an abdication of ones role in society.
I dont know how many of you have long talks with random strangers outside of lefty spaces, but so many people suffer from this failure of imagination. They have died inside, their imaginations and consciousness, even their sense of themselves and connections to community stifled by lifetimes of obedience and fear, their horizons cut away in bloody strips by the knives of capital, individually packaged in neat little boxes by alienating neoliberal media. Their resurrection, and the murder of the metaphorical cops residing in their heads, is our responsibility. Even if we don't immediately love the person who climbs out of that dirt. Where we as leftists must act is not just in feeding the hungry, in practical needs or armed resistance or whatever the fuck your praxis is³, but in sparking the imagination, expanding horizons past the options explicitly presented by their masters, and connecting those expanded views and ability to act to everyday life. We can and should use this chaos to break out of the ordinary, to make the world more surreal, to blur the edges of what capitalist subjects see as possible. This is the responsibility not only of the mass chef and the soldier, though it does remain a part of theirs, but of the artist, the drug dealer, the thief, the builder, and the engineer-including and especially of software.
Get out there and do some necromancy, folks. Scream messy poetry in a coffee shop, project a movie on a blank wall, make your error messages surrealist. Intrude on peoples fucking tiny little lives. Make the world a little stranger. Bring back the dead.
¹I know, not popular here, but at least in the lib rhetoric they're fighting a defensive war against a genocidal invader. Whatever you believe, it shows what the libs really value. And more importantly, there was a god damn treaty since they gave up their nukes. Nobody's ever fucking doing that again after this example. The failure to defend them ended even the most remote dreams of nuclear disarmament without dismantling the state. There will be fallout from this, and it will be literal. Just when we were back to making fresh modern LBR steel, too. Fuck.
²I'd believe trump won the electoral college, but he absolutely did not win the popular vote. Not honestly. They cheated. We knew they were cheating. We caught them cheating. They admitted they were cheating. Nobody cared.
³its still that. I don't mean to call what youre doing unimportant. Whatever it is, we probably still need that. I'm saying its not enough. What I was doing wasn't enough either, as demonstrated by a lack of revolution. By lack of mainstream resistance. By the left still being marginal.
²I'd believe trump won the electoral college, but he absolutely did not win the popular vote. Not honestly. They cheated. We knew they were cheating. We caught them cheating. They admitted they were cheating. Nobody cared.
Nah big doubt, I fully buy the way the vote tally came out, would be wild if I was wrong tho
I could buy a few million votes but not 15.
A good response whenever you hear someone express shock over voting for Trump:
“If you were able to overlook a genocide and cast a vote for Harris, you already know how a conservative was able to overlook Trump’s extremism and vote for him.”
https://xcancel.com/briebriejoy/status/1854548845381787825#m
Anyone have any thoughts or reflections on better messaging towards men from the center and left given the results of the election?
You see this guy? This guy is cool as fuck. You're not cool as fuck. Do you know why he's cool as fuck? Because he's fight for COMMUNISM. If you fight for communism you'll be cool as fuck too. Here read this 900 page brick of theory.
My only thoughts are:
In America currently life is bad for most people. The corporations are rat fucking society, poring pollutants into the water supply and laying off staff to save costs. Prices are rising and opportunities are falling. For many men they feel like DEI and wokeness are attacking their prior advantage to get those dwindling opportunities and the bad news is they’re right. Access to opportunity is a zero sum game. Extending opportunity to marginalised groups does indeed reduce your own current unfair access to opportunities. The good news is that opportunity itself is not zero sum. Progressive policy can make new opportunities and expand the pool.
Your political choices are as follows: Liberalism just wishes to stabilise the current misery. As Joe Biden said nothing will fundamentally change. No new opportunities or prosperity will be made for you under liberalism. Just continued extraction from the capitalist vultures.
Facism wants you to fight your fellow citizens for the scraps of a burning economy. No new opportunity for you here either, just the chance to tread on the backs of your fellow man to get the scraps from the cooperate table. And the pool of opportunity will continue to shrink as more wealth is extracted. Sure you may get the scraps today, but when those scraps run out? Perhaps it’s your turn to be trod on.
Only socialism actually wants to make life better for everyone. It wants to give everyone access to a better future. It wants to build and work towards wealth for all people not just the corporate class of vampires. End the capitalist rent seeking that sucks the life out of society. Build things for public good. Bring back jobs even if they’re not as competitive as foreign Labour. Capital cannot do that, that would be sub optimal behaviour for maximum profit. Socialism doesn’t care, it can do that if it benefits the people.
Yeah, I mean, everyone here knows all this and I do agree. However, somewhere along the line our universal project has become alienating to men and a universal project shouldn't be alienating to half of the human race. It's a real problem that deserves to be thought about. What is it about left and liberal culture that is so unappealing? I think we need to articulate a left wing, emancipatory vision for masculinity and it's role in radical culture. I mean it's that or just say we don't care about them, that has no place in the left??
Re: what is it about left and liberal culture that’s so unappealing:
At risk of upsetting people, I suspect because the woke scold is a real thing. Frankly a lot of the people you meet who push DEI and other woke issues are some of the most joyless unfunny self righteous bores you could hope to meet. In my workplace they’re usually terminal libs pushing “Pride by Lockheed Martin” brand corporate inclusion whose method for affecting change is just pure idealism with zero steps to address the material reasons for inequality. Likewise if you read and religiously follow the lessons in Mao’s Combat Liberalism you will be completely unbearable to be around.
I think the problem is people have grown to associate leftist ideals and the ideals of actually progressive policy with this particular brand of nagging. And it’s just not cool or attractive. I don’t know the solution here. In the past I thought the ‘dirtbag’ left would be a good tool to warm people to leftism without being off putting. Personally I try to take the rough with the smooth. Like if someone is using some vaguely problematic language but their point is a progressive one, I’ll let the language slide. But If someone is just being shitty e.g. transphobic I’ll call them out, but if I’m calling someone out I try not to be sanctimonious about it. “Harry I’m not being funny but since when do you give a fuck about women’s sports? Name one female athlete… right, stop being a dick and repeating some shit you heard on tictok”
The easiest way is to update Soviet and Maoist iconography. Show healthy, attractive equals working together on great things. Imply Communism will achieve this for them specifically. These chuds are deeply unhappy people and if you can show them a way out when Trump disillusions them about being the master race, they'll jump.
You listen to them and hear them articulate what they want and it's mostly freedom from want and from social despair. The racism and chuddery is mostly false consciousness
That's a good idea.
I don’t have a direct answer and I am not this demographic. But today I was thinking about how amazing I felt for about one week in 2020 before Bernie was ratfucked. Hope and solidarity is a hell of a drug. Imagine how it feels to be part of an actual revolutionary movement. So we need to do the work and organize it.
Disclaimer, I know Bernie is a Western chauvinist but i didn’t fully grasp that then and it’s not about him anyway.
For sure. Idk either.
The Democrats did not treat this as the most important election of our lifetimes. They did not even seriously treat it as an election at all.
They treated it as a protection racket. "Oh, it'd sure be a shame if ol' cousin Donny broke your kneecaps. Now, I can keep him away from you but I'm gonna need a little something from you first."
Was this the most important election of our lifetimes?
Is this really the last chance to stop fascism?
Will Trump make the Palestinian genocide 10x worse?
Is democracy itself over now?
Then where’s the rioting on the streets fucKKKing pussies
I think they’re right, tbh, at least in the vibes sense, but why aren’t they rioting?
i think the correct MSE for that is "fucking puSSies"
Just don't use "Pussy" as an insult at all.
The real story here is that Trump won the popular vote. That signals an enormous shift in sentiment and culture, and should be the subject of any serious analysis here. This is nothing less than a catastrophic failure of the liberal project and liberal vision--a total implosion of the do-nothing "centrist" political consensus. Democrats have shown over and over and over again that they have nothing to offer the majority of Americans. The Harris campaign was just the apotheosis of the trend: courting capital and neo-conservative ghouls while jettisoning any talk of policies that might help people. This is not a winning election strategy. That should be screamingly obvious now. People are angry, hurting, and looking for anyone that even suggests they understand that pain and might do something about it, even when the suggested solutions make no sense. The only sane response to this result is a SWEEPING reexamination of the neo-liberal consensus. Liberalism in its current form has failed most people, and the Democrats have failed to articulate any message or position that appreciates that. Until someone in the United States starts articulating a positive vision with policies to engender some hope for the future--healthcare for everyone, housing as a human right, SERIOUS action on climate change--the far right will keep winning. They're the only ones with ideas.
Now is the time to reach out to your liberal friends to help them understand that this is not a fluke, but the system working as designed. This failure by the Dems didn't come out of nowhere. Lots of us on the left saw this coming a mile away, and can help make sense of it. They're flailing and looking for an explanation. We have that. Help them understand. Help them see that we don't HAVE to live like this. We don't have to put up with only being given a sliver of political power every 4 years, with the threat of fascism hanging over our heads. The people at the top--the donor class, campaign managers, and beltway lanyard bros--aren't worth your time. But your mom or friend who voted for Kamala and is devastated and confused by the loss of the popular vote definitely IS worth your time. Those people can be comrades. Give them a chance. Reach out and listen to their frustrations and concerns. Don't be smug--be sympathetic. Talk to them about why they think this happened. Offer your perspective. Ask them why the Democrats raised over a billion dollars and still lost the popular vote. Ask if those might be connected. Ask why progressive voter initiatives--protecting abortion, sick days, wages increases, etc.--outperformed the Democratic presidential candidate so much in so many places. Ask what they think that means about the state of the electorate; does it mean most of America really is irredeemably evil? Or could it maybe mean something else? Ask if they really think Kamala Harris and "nothing really needs to change" is the best we can do, or the message most people need to hear. Help them see that it isn't. Help them see that a better world is possible. Help them get organized. This is your chance.
The real story here is that Trump won the popular vote. That signals an enormous shift in sentiment and culture, and should be the subject of any serious analysis here.
Yes! And we should emphasize early and often that the shift in the popular vote is not because the populace got 10% more fascister since 2020, it's because (as you explain), of a total collapse in the faith in liberalism's ability to address or keep in check more reactionary elements, or really offer anything of worth
Don't be smug--be sympathetic. Talk to them about why they think this happened.
I’m so glad you (and many others) have included this part, because this is such a huge and important takeaway that gets so easily over-analyzed in online leftist spaces, and it’s exactly why I made this post.
The echo chamber effect will often have us losing sight of the actual goal, but god damn it just feels so good to be correct. That first hit of vindication after years and years of warning liberals that this would happen is euphoric, but extremely toxic if you let it slip into rhetoric.
Frankly, nobody likes to be wrong, and accepting that can take quite some time for some people. That’s why the most important thing to focus on is giving others the proper tools to analyze what happened. Being smug together can come later when they inevitably find themselves on the same side as you
Hard agree. Yelling "We were right we were right we were right" feels good but it doesn't, like, help anyone.
Yeah, the place to be smug is here on Hexbear when we're just talking to each other. If we're trying to actually reach people and change their minds, its really essential that we restrain the natural urge to dunk. Remember that these people are heavily propagandized, and that many of them were voting for Kamala because they genuinely thought it was the only possible option for producing a better world. Believing that doesn't make someone bad or dumb when they've been told it their whole lives by everything they've ever consumed. Rubbing their nose in it now is just going to alienate them from the left even further and make it easier for them to shift blame off of where it belongs and onto us. The goal is to bring new comrades into the movement, and we won't do that by making people feel bad--we'll do that by giving them hope that there's a better way.
I might not be good at agitprop.
Every time that someone implies that Palestinians should have been sacrificed for the country, I just call them fascist.
It is after all what they are but I'm not sure if that convinces people to try something different.
I understand this urge so deeply, and it really is so much easier sometimes.
That being said, you have the perfect opportunity to separate online life rhetoric from real life rhetoric and make progress for the Palestinian people here.
I think it’s safe to say that MOST liberals who were ok doing the whole “vote for the lesser of two evils” thing are actually not thrilled about the ongoing genocide of Palestinians. To them, it was just an unfortunate situation that they couldn’t worry about when they felt they had issues they could do something about. But that is exactly where you take the win as a principled leftist. You get to come to them with an actual analysis and tell them that not only did voting for “the lesser of two evils” damn the Palestinian people, but in the end it didn’t even protect the things they were hoping it would for exactly that reason.