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https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/broken-trust-in-cig

Still a record sales year though, like each previous year was. joker-gaming

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I simply cannot believe that an entire live service economy has been built off of hype and promised features and it's one of the most financially successful games ever.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is it actually that financially successful? The problem with this "model of development" is that you can't make a huge profit because you're compelled to keep the gravy train going until it implodes

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It was successful for Chris Roberts and his immediate inner circle. The game may be a money sink approaching a billion dollars but he continues to take his cut.

One of the earliest quotes from him making promises about Star Citizen was that you "would never find him on a yacht while the game is still in development."

About that...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If I was Chris Roberts I would be bleeding the company dry at possible turn

Run all the employee salaries through your payroll processing firm, lend yourself money to buy the building to rent back to CIG, lease the IP (I think he did actually sell it), etc.

Not only is it a scam at this point, but it's a deeply inefficient one - you don't need to hire 500 staff to produce what looks like a couple million in content to keep the grift going

I think it's rumoured him and his relatives take about 10 percent of revenue, which is actually pretty small for a conman from Hollywood

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

I mean he is just all around incompetent.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If it's only 10 percent, that's still far more money than most people could really spend in ways that actually matter for quality of life. It may not attain the leaderboards of billionaire vampires, but only billionaire vampires and their ghoul followers care about that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

billionaire vampires

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

A question for someone with more knowledge than me, I suppose - but haven't they made like a billion dollars? Their costs are super high but most live service games would kill to get that kind of revenue flowing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Revenue is very high but I don't think Roberts has the intelligence to skim the amount of profits you'd expect from a commercially successful game

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't feel bad for any of these people. The scam has been so obvious for so long at this point that they just wanted someone to relieve them of their money

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm only sad for whatever families are still around those aging gamedads that may need that income a lot more than Chris Roberts.

The fact that many of them openly admit that their wives don't like their "investments" in Store Citizen or even boast that their kids will one day inherit their "fleets" is sad.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Imagine inheriting a video game fleet in your parents will when they die.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Oof good point

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Store Citizen

langston-hughes

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Still love the game though say-the-line-bart-2

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

The parallels between Store Citizen kelly and Te$la are remarkable in their overlap. Chris Roberts, head grifter of Store Citizen, even put himself directly in his grift game's lore as my-hero even more grandiose counterpart!

https://starcitizen.tools/Chris_Roberts_(lore)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Silly paypigs, you can play Escape Velocity for free, it's been abandonware forever.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Okay, I'm going to prophecy here. Let me huff some sulphur fumes and put on my prophecy hat.

Okay.

Till CIG is fallen and the heart of Roberts fails, no mortal blade or harm shall befall @[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Me, going to the Spectrum forum emboldened by prophecy:

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

WHY ARE YOU BOOING ME I'M RIGHT?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I fucking hate Richard and Mortimer, butt I'd be like this there:

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I am proud to say I haven't seen that eposide and stopped watching it during the first season.

Enjoy media? Me? I would never

trump-enlightened

Jokes aside that is a very powerful line when separated from the context of the show.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I never saw the episode either but I still liked the line out of context. gigachad

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

We're in a race to see if Star Citizen hits release, or Joseph Kony is arrested.

Any day now!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The only thing I have seen that is remarkable about this game is the ship designs and the fact that they have full interiors. I know the X series is more economy sim but I hope X5 takes a look at the ship design of Star Citizen a bit. I love what they did with interiors in X4 from X3 but it all starts to feel same-y after a bit. Seemless navigating around a ship would be great.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The only thing I have seen that is remarkable about this game is the ship designs

They're 90% just stuff that Chris Roberts saw on a movie and wanted a derivative knock-off of, from le dropships to le Millennium Falcons to even le ZYBERTRUKKKs in space.

and the fact that they have full interiors

Those full interiors have less functionality than the Jump to Lightspeed expansion for the late Star Wars Galaxies; just about nothing in them can really be interacted with or moved around unless it's something really stilted like a "secret" chess board switch that opens that same "secret" le smuggling compartment that comes standard with every ship of that class.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I mean, what kind of functionality do you expect from interiors? Most ships give you access to ship components, like quantum drive, shields, etc. which you will need for the engineering update. You usually also get weapon racks and shower/toilet rooms (thought tbf those don't really server any purpose).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I was a day one backer and regret spending the minimum 30 dollars for this grift. We don't take kindly to defending grifters here.

I was supposed to get squadron 42 6 fucking years ago and they haven't even got a demo of the original Kickstart promise.

After 10 years and not even the original promise of a single player/coop campaign and Roberts' adoration of fascists like Elon Musk and his general narcissism if you still defend him you need to fuck all the way off.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago

Are you seriously stanning for hundreds-to-thousands-of-dollar pricetag internet spaceships that have static decorations (such as that oh-so-very-secret chessboard toggle to the oh-so-secret standard issue smuggling compartment) while the grift is under pretenses of total simulation of everything but can't even allow actual interaction to even approach the false promises?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Selling things you can't realistically make is exactly the same idea as a pyramid scheme.

They're so close.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Treat defenders still exist, of course:

You dont even know what they are doing, or what they are done. Main reason is ignorance... They invented or improved tech several times. And you did not noticed that? smuglord

Can I have your stuff? freeze-gamer

Your opinion is fact and anyone that doesnt agree with you is an ostrich. very-intelligent

IRL people wait for clarification answers. When you did that as well you would not have been anger posting bootlicker

can anyone say some positive news about this project ?? Though still inconsistent, their ship interiors are vastly improved from the early days. Not sure if that's "news". cope

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Check this one, aware and proud of being grifted:

But it always was like this, nothing has changed. I learned my lesson in 2013. How can anyone be so blind for 12 years?
Meanwhile I dumped grands after grands in this game fully knowingly how they market it. I don't like cig marketing but it works and I like their game.
The problem for some people who are upset now seems to be that they see things now that others saw and pointed out for years. Like removing blindfolds.

Pure

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Such a loyal consoomer that the goalposts are being carried in a sprint across the field to try to catch up with the diminishing scope and depth of the actual product now being promised.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

IRL people wait for clarification answers. When you did that as well you would not have been anger posting

I'm sure there's no projection at play here. This is a calm individual, completely tolerant of dissent among followers of Cult Imperium.

Individual in question

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Meanwhile I'm STILL not done playing Terraria