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submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

The irony is their obsession with domination is killing the planet, and in turn will worsen their chances of survival.

I hate how they are dragging us all down with them

I fucking give up on these idiots. Too dumb to live.

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[-] [email protected] 52 points 7 months ago

yea

The ukraine war makes me question if we live in the same reality sometimes. There's something so existentially horrifying about thousands of people pointlessly dying fighting over some village with 5000 residents in the middle of a bombed out wasteland and this just repeats month after month, but half the people around me talk abut it like it's an exciting sports game.

[-] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago

Its doubly fucked when you live in cities that are just like theirs,and your grandparents live in villages just like those

And then you move away from the border,and into the capital,and it's like you stepped into another reality,no alarms at night,no jets flying overhead,it's like the war is something on tv again (Not Ukrainian,but I live on the border with them)

[-] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

There's something so existentially horrifying about thousands of people pointlessly dying fighting over some village with 5000

Well if it makes you feel better this isnt what they're fighting for. Russia is systemically dismantling the Ukrainian proxy state and removing US influence from the region. Weakening NATO as a whole. The world will be better at the end of it.

[-] [email protected] 49 points 7 months ago

To the person who reported this thread because hmm it might make whitey feel bad, go look at ALL THE RACIST SHIT that is posted in dunk and dredj tank today for some reason and then go shut the fuck up for a while thanks

[-] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago

um, excuse me, but as a white man, this makes me feel empathy

UNACCEPTABLE!

kitty-birthday-sad

[-] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

Aaaand this is why I always go for an over the top title with these things, it weeds out the reactionaries (but also sorry for making your job harder)

[-] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

No worries. You aren't the issue here!

[-] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

One time I reported a badpost because I liked the song that they posted hoping to get called out like this but the mod didn't bite.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

If it was me I woulda done it. I always commit to the bit

[-] [email protected] 41 points 7 months ago

Some of them, I assume, are good people a-little-trolling

[-] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

Very fine people on both sides,I say

[-] [email protected] 35 points 7 months ago

In no way is it just the cis ones lmfao

[-] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

Yeah, I think that was our comrade making a carve-out for themselves, as often happens with these kinds of posts.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Whites are gonna white no matter what marginalization they may have

[-] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

My point wasn't that we need a more hardline position on the eradication of white people (as some in this thread express), my point was that this misanthropic bullshit is just a way of finding a convenient "out" for problems.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Oh yeah the "I'm white and think we're all* trash" bit from this site like never comes from someone that actually cares about unlearning racism, it's purely performative but a performance for other whites who also think the discussion about racism should center white feelings

[-] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

I have only been here two months but it seems that performative self-flagellation is popular here

[-] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Marginalized mayos are still mayos in the end. A "normal" (cishet, NT, not disabled) POC is still overall better than some cracker of a marginalized identity (queer, ND, disabled). Let's be honest.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago

Not just cis whites, I got driven out of a Discord that was like 1/3 trans for saying that I wouldn't vote for the Democrats because they support genocide. I talked about this previously, but I've had similar experiences since then among people who were otherwise strongly left-leaning.

If you live in the imperial core, there is no faster or surer way to make an enemy of everyone around you than to stand by your conviction that those in the periphery are human.

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[-] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago

Time to start up the "Down with Cis" bus for real

[-] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

But I am not a white cis

[-] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago

Maybe I shouldn't think this way, but if all cis whites had to die (me with them), I wouldn't be that upset

[-] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago

Ok but I would be sad if you died.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

Just imagine what it would do for the climate apocalypse and Global South if all cis whites died though. If it had real shot of happening I'd probably advocate for it.

[-] [email protected] 41 points 7 months ago

Comrade this is a very misanthropic view. Many many cis whites are perfectly fine, delightful people, just with incredibly deeply bored brain worms.

Were you not once a liberal? If not you are in a lucky minority.

These people don't need to die they need to be reeducated. We are steadily making progress despite the resistance of the fiercest most well resourced reactionaries.

Look at the campus protests, how many of those people were cis whites?

[-] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's a throw away comment, and not something I'd genuinely advocate for.

Edit: yes I used to be a huge liberal.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago

I know you wouldn't advocate for that seriously but you seemed down so I was hoping to cheer you up

[-] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

Nah I'm good, but thank you comrade. I'm far from a perfect white ally or anything, but I've just been so damn disappointed with nearly all white people in my life, with the exception of hexbear. Thanks for looking out for me.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago

GOOD comment

[-] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's also deeply non-materialist. There is nothing inherent to one's skin tone or gender identity in terms of ideology, no one is born a imperialist. The reason most people in the global north support the current world order is because they are it's beneficiaries. That order is not going to change just because the racial or gender identity of those in charge or making up the empire changes. New cultural identities will form to justify the global capitalist-imperialist system in such a scenario. These ideologies adapt and change to suit what is required by the global capitalist system, and not the other way around. Look at the history of Liberia for example, where freed African American and Afro Caribbean people proceeded to form their own cultural identity and colonised a part of Africa. Communitarian ideologies based around race or gender identity cannot be a substitute for the absence of a socialist ideology in the working class. This is true for even the most radical of communities.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Thanos snapping white people from existence would just mean Japan is the new center of capital. The imperial core would still exist and most of the subimperialist parts like the UAE would just get "promoted" to imperialist.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Yeah as a fellow straight person of low melanin content I'm with you on this. Like it'd be better if the death was means tested not skin/sexuality based but pretty sure unlimited genocide on the white cissys would probably be a net benefit too good to say no to even if it takes a few good people with the bad.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Genocide of any kind would be bad, and the system would just be taken over by POC imperialists because nothing about the system itself changed. There would be a bit of a crisis, yeah, but I think Kamala would come out on top and set everything straight. The thing about whiteness being an artificial category made for the perpetuation of the bourgeois state is that there is no essentially "white" person and nothing that intrinsically separates them, as a bloc, from POC.

This is just the wrong way to look at the issue.

CC: @[email protected]

[-] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago

I don't know if crabs in a bucket mentality is the right term or what, but the sentiment of ”I'm willing to let everyone else suffer so I don't have to compromise even the littlest bit on my treats” is disgustingly strong.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago

like ButtBidet, I'm down for vanishing from the world to save it from the rest of our kind

Down With Cis

[-] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

I've felt this way since I was like...12. Do not trust them one bit.

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I hate me too! floppy-parrot

[-] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

You are more than the color of your skin

[-] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

They are the vanguard of capitalism and imperialism because it benefits them the most.

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