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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Oxalic acid is a normal part of the metabolic process. Your body literally creates it during digestion. Avoiding all oxalic acid intake is a nutrition myth and is basically impossible anyway. Fruits contain it, vegetables contain it, grains contain it. You eat it constantly. This person was already severely unhealthy if they gave themselves NAFLD and kidney stones. More likely the crap peanut butter OP was eating was full of preservatives and icing sugar and OP is probably chronically dehydrated.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

As a gym rat and bicyclist i was having health issues. No drugs or alcohol. Lots of supplements.

I went oxalate free on a zero carb diet for several years and it fixed my auto immune disorder. I lost 30 pounds of muscle in the process because of a loss in appetite. I slowly readded foods into my diet. Turned out that I couldn't handle salicylates in large amounts. It's in most plants as well. 3% of the population shares my intolerance. We can't eat spices or herbs.

All humans have individual variances in our ability to process plant toxins. There's a reason why some people are more prone to kidney stones than others. It doesn't mean someone is unhealthy.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 12 hours ago

A pound or two a week sounds kind of moderate? I mean it's a lot, but if you like peanut butter? I don't eat nearly that much of it on average, but when I buy a 1 pound jar I usually finish it off in much less than a week. It's just an occasional thing for me though.

Are those oxalates only if the PB is getting spoiled or anything like that?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

There's always cookie dough as alternative.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago

It’s my go-to when I run out of peanut butter.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Only the peanut butter or also the peanuts themselves? Because I eat an absurd amount of them to pass time

[–] [email protected] 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Good peanut butter is just 100% ground up peanuts, soooo....

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

But the peanut butter most people eat is not 100% ground-up peanuts.

For example, here's the nutritional info and ingredients for Skippy:

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Hydrogenated vegetable oil is extremely high in linoleic acid. OP should probably be worried about the (probably) low quality food they're ingesting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

A whole lot of sugar too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

The word "liver" doesn't appear in the Wikipedia article.

wp:Peanut

As for oxalates:

wp:Oxalate:

Several plant foods such as the root and/or leaves of spinach, rhubarb, and buckwheat are high in oxalic acid and can contribute to the formation of kidney stones in some individuals. Other oxalate-rich plants include fat hen ("lamb's quarters"), sorrel, and several Oxalis species (also sometimes called sorrels). The root and/or leaves of rhubarb and buckwheat are high in oxalic acid.[14] Other edible plants with significant concentrations of oxalate include, in decreasing order, star fruit (carambola), black pepper, parsley, poppy seed, amaranth, chard, beets, cocoa, chocolate, most nuts, most berries, fishtail palms, New Zealand spinach (Tetragonia tetragonioides), and beans.[citation needed] Leaves of the tea plant (Camellia sinensis) contain among the greatest measured concentrations of oxalic acid relative to other plants. However, the drink derived by infusion in hot water typically contains only low to moderate amounts of oxalic acid due to the small mass of leaves used for brewing.[citation needed]

but no mention of peanuts in the main or talk page.

The doctor might be wrong.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 hours ago

The poster might be lying too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I suspect peanut falls under the "most nuts" part, right after cocoa and chocolate

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They're leguuuuuuuuuuuuumes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

That's truuuuuuuuuuuuue.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

He didn’t say if he ate it with jam or chocolate sprinkles. So not sure if he’s American or Dutch.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago

Nutella(off brand obv, nutella is like €7 a jar where the cheap shit is €3), am Dutch.

[–] [email protected] 102 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

“I eat relatively healthy”

“Sometimes my only food in the entire day is peanut butter”

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I have a niece who is literally obese (>30 BMI) and her mother (also obese, even more so) frequently describes her daughter as a "healthy eater" despite the fact that her diet mainly consists of cake and ice cream, in enormous amounts. She considers it "healthy" because it's all organic from Whole Foods.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago

Or maybe "healthy eater", not someone who has a healthy diet

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Oh wow 😯. I do like peanut butter but I didn't know about the oxalate content. Now I have to research this. I have this new hobby of cyanotype and the newformula by Mike Ware is what I'm using. It contains oxalates. I never touch the stuff as I apply it. But sometimes I stick my fingers into the developing bath without gloves. Hmm. Well now I'm going to wear gloves. But I also want to read the MSDS.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

Kinda curious what the sugar/corn syrup content of the peanut butter was.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

I think you have to eat it!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

I used to eat up to a pound a day, and now I'm wondering if I did myself permanent damage. Certainly half a pound a day, minimum, for a year.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Strength training plus an intensely physical job, 200g of peanut butter was an extra 1200kcal and went down very easily at the end of the day. Sometimes I'd be so tired I'd end up eating the rest of the jar as well. I must have eaten my girlfriend's weight in peanut butter over the course of a year. I'm so tired all the time nowadays I don't really know how it was possible. Some days would need 7000kal to hit maintenance.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago

You are good, oxalates eventually gets eliminated over time. And even if it made some damage, liver can heal itself fast. Same for kidney stone, if you have normal nutrition, they dissolve over time.

[–] [email protected] 141 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They deserve credit for warning everyone about a situation people might not have realized was dangerous. Damn.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Something doesn't add up to me. That is not a ridiculous amount of peanut butter for one week. We would hear about this more than some random reddit post if it was real.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 13 hours ago

I had something similar happen to me, but instead of pounds of peanut butter i was substituting lunch for trail mix too often. One day I was passing white flakes that hurt like hell and it would come in waves if I tried eating any sort of nuts after. It's not peanut allergies, it takes a few days or so to feel these sharp cramps then I will be doubled over the next day. It looks like my bladder had dandruff.

I read it had to do with nut oils, and citrus supposedly counteracts it, so I eat oranges like mad if I ever feel it coming back and so far I haven't dealt with it again since. I'm really not the type to go over my diet or look into health things like this, but holy hell it hurt and that seems to be the why and also the how to help.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 23 hours ago

That is what they're admitting to, I think we can assume it has often been around double that.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (8 children)

A pound of peanut butter per week sounds insane but apparently it's only like 2 cups and I feel like that's an edible amount. It's a lot but if I really got a hankering for some PB I could do that. But then after a week I would be over it. I feel bad for this person though that apparently they think eating nothing but PB is healthy. A human body needs a variety of different foods and nutrients and evidently eating nothing but peanut butter isn't that.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 21 hours ago

It doesn't sound like they think it's healthy, given that they said they eat it in excess and it's a guilty pleasure.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

A pound of peanut butter in a week is nothing; a pound of peanut butter a week, every week, on the other hand...

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 day ago (21 children)

A few people are in here saying a pound or two a week is an unreasonable amount of peanut butter.

But when you buy peanut butter it comes in a 1-2 pound jar. If it's your main source of protein, your favorite comfort food, or you have a poverty pantry, then I could totally see how you might think that one jar a week isn't too bad.

Two pounds of peanut butter is about 6000 calories, or three days of energy for the average person. It shouldn't be the main staple in your diet, as OPs doctor will attest, but it doesn't seem strictly unreasonable.

I wonder how gourmet or homemade "nothing but peanut" butter compares to something like Kraft that's loaded with sugar. Probably still not super great, but hey, maybe it's better. Or maybe it's worse. Eat a variety if you can.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They cannot be eating relatively healthily if peanut butter is their only food for the whole day lol

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