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Unfortunately they'll never realize the actual solution to this alleged abuse is to just give everyone like $300/month in food stamps.

If everyone is food secure, selling the food at a discount for cash becomes very difficult.

I heard a lady ranting about these same fake anecdotes a few years ago and finally interrupted to tell her, look, I'm on food stamps, and it's not nearly enough, and the restrictions are so arbitrary and punitive that you can't even get hot food, and if you wanted to trade SNAP benefits for drugs you wouldn't get very many drugs at all. She said, "Oh, I wasn't talking about you, because you're educated." Even when they think they're dialing it back they manage to go in weirder, even more offensive directions. Needless to say, she had no idea how much education I may or may not have had.

"I have seen homeless who buy bottled water on SNAP only to dump and resell the bottles so they could get cash for their addictions"

1. You didn't see that, you saw a viral video of a black person dumping out water in a parkinglot and everyone told you it was an EBT scam. Just because you see it shared on the internet does not mean it's common.

2. Maybe the solution is to help their addictions rather than just throw them cash they can only use to buy ramen and bottled water. You don't nuke or means test a helpful program just because you fail to address another issue.

"Dump and resell the bottles"

Dump and resell... bottles... of water.

How does that even work??? Are they talking about the 10 cent bottle deposit???

Huh????

Wouldn't it be a better idea to buy a pack of water and sell the individual bottles??

Oh wait homeless people dum dum according to this person.

Getting a new iPhone by selling milk money credits. Dumping water for nickel returns on CRV.

Of all the things that didn't happen, these things didn't happen the most.

If anyone on our instance is responsible for that lone upvote they should be banned.

Also homeless as a noun. every single fucking time

Principal Skinner and Ms. Krabappel were in the closet making babies and I saw one of the babies and the baby looked at me and the baby said, "they sold my milk purchased with EBT for iPhone money"

Attitudes like this is why we can't have good public aid. No help can be given unconditionally, because someone might take a little bit too much.
To avoid the horror of someone getting a little bit more than they were supposed to, we will instead make the system worse for everyone involved. We will put in "safeguards" that will cost us more than just letting some people cheat themselves to a slightly larger piece of help.
Meanwhile we thank the billionaires for the crumbs of tax they deem fitting to pay.

Gee maybe they wouldn't be doing that so much if we spent a fraction of the money we do on bank bailouts on a social safety net that's fully functional instead of the... let's call them partial... measures that we use now.

no more half measures walter

I honestly can't imagine being this small and pathetic, I'm out of jokes. Fuck that guy lol

Real talk, most of the takes I have seen out of lemm.ee denizens are complete shit

Almost exclusively liberals and shitters

Country Singer Guy told me to be big mad at people on welfare so I am.

This is still 'the world stops here' thinking. Even in this filthy lib's world where the abuse asserted is definitely true and happened, and that 'poor people don't deserve smartphones'.

Why would someone think a phone is more important than milk for their baby? Could it be because this capitalist hellhole places an inordinate amount of social value on expensive phones? In some ways, an investment in your social standing absolutely paves the way to a better life in this awful rat race.

In addition, who is out there buying dodgy cut-price milk from a clearly incredibly poor person? Hint: It's not rich people. The only people in the market for that are going to be other povertous families who can't afford milk on their own and aren't able to get food stamps.

Fuck all these people. 'We literally gave this person some bottles of water and they DIDN'T DRINK THEM!!!" is possibly the lowest thing on the list of problems to care about.

Yo wtf, milk costs as much as an iPhone now?

damn people are forgoing water to acquire drugs? it must be because they're exceptionally weak and stupid and evil, and not that drug addiction is a disease that causes you to act in ways that are detrimental to your health. obviously we should let these people die in the street instead of giving even the tiniest bit of help.

For the more generic Republicans, I think it's a good way of framing their tacit beliefs just one step beneath what they say that they don't mind if innocent people suffer undeservedly so long as the "guilty" are punished, and are much more upset about a "guilty" person evading punishment than an innocent person being given unjust punishment.

Obviously there are racial elements and Calvinism and such, but that is further down usually.

As much as liberals want to rattle out logical fallacy cliches, they absolutely are addicted to making false equivalencies. The RULES BASED ORDER(tm) is built on them.