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Despite lobbing the same questions at Tim Walz, J.D. Vance lost it when pressed about his own military service.

Republican vice presidential nominee J.D. Vance seems perfectly happy to dish out criticism of Minnesota Governor Tim Walz over his military record, but he just can’t take it. 

Vance blew up at CNN anchor Brianna Keilar on Thursday, after she called Vance an “imperfect messenger” to criticize Walz over his military service. 

“At what point did military service become a liability?” Keilar asked rhetorically on CNN’s Inside Politics. “I also think that J.D. Vance as a messenger on this may be an imperfect messenger.”

Vance served a single four-year enlistment in the public affairs section in the 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing, and according to his memoir, Hillbilly Elegy, the Republican nominee was “lucky to escape any real fighting.” Still, that hasn’t stopped Vance from accusing Walz, who served with the Army National Guard for 24 years, of exiting the service before his unit was deployed to Iraq.

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[–] [email protected] 220 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 180 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I mean....if you don't want people asking questions about your military service, maybe, just maybe, don't question the military service of your opponent.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 3 months ago

This is just me, never served but have relatives who did...

If you don't have a purple heart and the dude you're talking about isn't claiming to have one, maybe stfu about Stolen Valor.

[–] [email protected] 145 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Walz served for 24 years, was deployed during operation enduring freedom, was a the ranking member of Veteran Affairs, has been key to bipartisan legislation for veteran suicide prevention, and he retired a year before he would’ve been deployed to Iraq.

Vance slimy weirdo who knows his base would rather eat up lies than confront the fact that they’ve been conned by a billionaire huckster for a decade.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Also, 4 years is a pretty standard enlistment period for the guard. He did an extra 4 years after finishing his 20, and instead of doing 28 years he retired and ran for Congress, which also required him to retire due to the Hatch Act.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Guard can actually extend for any arbitrary amount up to 6 years, and initial contracts are 6. It's possible he just did 3 6 year extensions. If he really did a 6 year at his 18 year mark that's pretty fuckin patriotic. Like goddamn.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Initial contacts are always 8 years with a period served in active service and the remainder as inactive. 6/2 is the most common but I've also seen 4/4 and 3/5.

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[–] [email protected] 118 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 106 points 3 months ago (2 children)

“When were you ever in war?” Vance demanded at a Michigan rally on Wednesday. “What bothers me about Tim Walz is this stolen valor garbage. Do not pretend to be something that you’re not.”

How do you consistently fuck up this bad every time?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It does look like Walz misspoke years ago when he was making a point about how some weapons only belong in war and not anywhere else. I don't think it's that big of a deal to make, especially coming from someone else who also didn't see combat but more importantly doesn't seem to understand that service is far more than combat.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I don't think that's a misstatement at all. Nobody needs an M2 Browning in their backyard, as cool as they are.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Easy, it's called being a republikkklown

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 months ago (5 children)

i can see how it can be frustrating to see every q&a session has a military-related question couched in.

but seriously, does he not melt down to anything? even the softest of balls he gets asked pisses him off for some reason.

Reporter: "what makes you laugh?"

Vance: "well i laugh at bogus questions like this from lamestream media!"

Reporter: "why would people want to have a beer with you"

Vance: "because i like beer... maybe a little too much. I'M SURE THE MEDIA'S GONNA JUMP ON MY THROAT FOR THIS TOO"

like Jesus Christ dude calm the fuck down they're trying to help you and you can't stop being a weirdo for a goddamn second.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (5 children)

For me, the most surprising thing about him has been how bad he is with the media.

I knew he was going to be a fascist piece of shit. I'm shocked at how incompetent a public speaker he is.

He's a fucking Senator and can't answer the most softball possible question.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If this is how he responds to softballs, can you imagine how he responds to hardballs? I can't wait to see the debates!

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

as Emma Vigeland said, it's karmic justice that he basically got desantis reincarnated as his VP candidate. they have the same charisma suck, the same uncomfortable laugh at things that clearly bother them.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

military-related question couched in.

I see what you did there

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I'm not saying Vance is throwing the election on purpose to fuck with Trump...

But if he was, what would he be doing differently?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Yes, fellow human, I love to do human things like drinking beer!"

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Inflation and housing and healthcare are huge issues which no one is addressing amidst the name calling and virtue signaling.

I don’t care about military records from any candidate! Address the issues, talk about what matters.

[–] [email protected] 109 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Harris and Walz address those issues in their speeches.

What you're missing is that the media isn't covering those statements. The silly schoolyard BS drives clicks and, for far too many people, it affects their voting choices.

Walz, who spent years as a school teacher, understands the mindset of T**** and Shady Vance and is using their tactics against them in a very efficient way.

If you look at it from a teachers POV, T**** is the school bully and Vance is the nose picking stooge who desperately wants the same power and attention.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Thank you for not using that arsewipes name. Wish more people would do the same.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

lol he's not voldemort. Trump is a bitch.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's because algorithms pick up his name, and then feed into the volumes of shit news that is fed out.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

No, you don't understand, I don't pay attention to politics, which makes me better than you. But that means I have to invent issues and hope that nobody else pays attention to politics, because otherwise I would look pretty stupid.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The annoying thing is that people interested in policy issues have already committed to a party. What’s left are swing voters who (when polled) come up with the most ridiculous reasons for voting for/against a candidate.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Couchfucker Vance is a fuckin hypocrite?

No fuckin way.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago

As a veteran, fuck Sgt Scribbles.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Lol, this was my FIRST reaction/comment the other day when I read about his comments here on Lemmy. The GOP is full of fake soldiers and draft dodgers. They don't care about the military. Just listen to Trump's own comments about our dead heroes.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago

You started it, baby face

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Vance was such a perfect pick for VP, they couldn't have anyone better. He's perfectly a little bitch in comparison in every single way with absolutely nothing redeeming about him, to the point it's hilarious. Couch fucker.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Finally someone in the military community with a microphone is clapping back. J.D. Vance wants to talk about commitment? He left after 4 years. While the war was still going on. He wants to talk about combat? 90 percent of his job was in an air conditioned office behind multiple layers of security. He wants to talk about one time Walz misspoke? How about the multiple times J.D. Vance has claimed he saw combat?

As an old Infantryman with a Combat Infantry Badge and a Purple Heart I feel secure in saying the only one here doing a Stolen Valor is the 4 year carpetbagger trying to tear down the record of a man who served honorably for 24 years and reached the highest possible enlisted pay grade. A man who was retired and decided to activate prestige mode after 9/11.

If we let that happen successfully then we will have cheapened us all.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Look, he DID see combat.

In pictures.

In the articles he wrote in his office securely in the middle of the base.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

The GOP loves the vets... but only the ones that didn't actually do anything...

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

Private Parts In A Sofa.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

What a weird coward

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

99 % of deployed soldiers never saw combat and 99% of those who claim to have did not.it can really piss off all those who had to deploy and worked hard jobs to basically be told they weren't enough by someone like Vance.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Huh. When I get asked about mine, I'm very up-front about all of it.

Weird.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

The things they feel are important... Seem so

WEIRD

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