Libs absorb nazi propaganda like a sponge.
this post was submitted on 18 Aug 2023
247 points (100.0% liked)
chapotraphouse
13445 readers
853 users here now
Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.
No anti-nautilism posts. See: Eco-fascism Primer
Vaush posts go in the_dunk_tank
Dunk posts in general go in the_dunk_tank, not here
Don't post low-hanging fruit here after it gets removed from the_dunk_tank
founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
Strange how that is.
almost like they have absorbed the culture of the country they live in. a certain type of country.
Certainly not a country that directly inspired the holocaust though.
One man's manifest destiny is another man's lebensraum.
My favorite thing to say to piss off rightwingers and make libs go 😨 is “The only difference between lebensraum and manifest destiny is the latter was completed successfully”
It is wild to me that I was an adult when I finally found out that Hitler was actually inspired by the US's attempted genocide of Native Americans. That's something everyone should know.
load more comments
(9 replies)
load more comments
(1 replies)
Ah, the "double genocide" theorists. What a delightful bunch of historical revisionists. It's like they took a drunken joyride through the annals of history and crashed straight into the "Bad Takes" tree. Comparing the Soviet Union to the Nazis? Might as well compare a stubbed toe to a decapitation.
And you can bet your ass that most of these armchair historians haven’t even read a book on the topic. It's all surface-level, cherry-picked facts with more holes than a block of Swiss cheese. It's historical interpretation with the depth of a kiddie pool. Dive in, and you're gonna crack your head open.
Honestly, it’s a disservice to the real complexities of history. But nuance, for these folks, seems to be a concept as elusive as a unicorn riding a Bigfoot. The actual victims, the real-life people affected by these events, deserve better than to be pawns in someone’s misguided, edgy take on history.
So, to those pushing the "double genocide" theory: Maybe spend less time trying to stir the pot with wild equivalences and more time, I dunno, actually understanding the depth and breadth of historical events. And for the love of God, please get some new reading glasses, because your perspective is blurrier than a foggy window smeared with bullshit.
Sure they've read a book, Gulag Archipelago
Don't even get me started on that capitalist propaganda piece known as The Gulag Archipelago...
So, Solzhenitsyn decides to pen this mammoth of a book, which is basically a relentless bitch-fest about the Soviet prison system. Look, buddy, I get it – gulags ain't no five-star resorts. But what's with the endless whining? It's like listening to someone complain about a bad Tetris game when the blocks just won't fit right. Only this time, the blocks are tales of sorrow and despair, and, boy, does Solzhenitsyn lay it on thick!
This dude's blending memoir, history, and his personal gripes into a cocktail of anti-communist drivel. It's like trying to make vodka out of moldy potatoes and rainwater. Sure, it might get you drunk, but you'll wish you never took a sip!
Oh, and the size of this thing! It's like Solzhenitsyn's trying to outdo Tolstoy in the "lengthy Russian novels that no one actually finishes" competition. It's the literary equivalent of a speedrunner trying to complete a glitchy game with no save points.
And, let's talk ideology. This guy's so hell-bent on painting communism as the devil's own ideology that he basically ignores any nuanced discussion. It's like playing a game where the only strategy is to spam the attack button and hope for the best. Bro, maybe take a step back and see the bigger picture. Not everything's black and white, you know?
So, while "The Gulag Archipelago" might serve as a wet dream for anti-communist folks, it's like a broken cartridge to me – full of glitches, bias, and a one-sided perspective. If you're looking for a balanced take on history, maybe look elsewhere. If you're just here for the dramatic horror stories and want to bash communism, then, by all means, dive into this ocean of capitalist tears. But don't say I didn't warn ya.
The way I've heard that book described is not fact, but urban legends, or fairy tales, from the gulags that people have related. Like, it isn't accurate factually, but it encompasses the feelings of a few people (including the author) had about being there.
the subtitle is unironically An Experiment in Literary Investigation
"Surely this must be a serious scholastic work!"
-- arbitrary liberal, probably
His ex wife called it "folklore"
https://www.nytimes.com/1974/02/06/archives/solzhenitsyns-exwife-says-gulag-is-folklore.html
load more comments
(1 replies)
load more comments
(5 replies)
I like the comparison of surgery with some fuck ups to being beaten to death with a baseball bat.
They love to cherry pick, yeah. And somehow their cherry picking makes the nazis look comparatively better. Curious
load more comments
(49 replies)
But though the camps that made up Auschwitz seemed silent and abandoned at first, soldiers soon realized they were filled with people—thousands of them, left to die by SS guards who evacuated the camps after trying to cover up their crimes. As they saw the soldiers, the emaciated prisoners hugged, kissed and cried.
“They rushed toward us shouting, fell on their knees, kissed the flaps of our overcoats, and threw their arms around our legs,” remembered Georgii Elisavetskii, one of the first Red Army soldiers to step into Auschwitz. After five years of hell, Auschwitz was liberated at last.
load more comments
(3 replies)
As if libs have ever cared about what scholars think. They'll be drowning in a boiling ocean screaming about how we can still stop this with a few more carbon offsets
Source on Jewish scholars views on this? I'm collecting sources to debunk debunked talking points like this theory.
David Katz is one of the best, and most accessible, especially on how the Baltic states have deliberately curated and used it to whitewash their own Nazi pasts and current far-right - mostly because he spent about 25 years living and researching it there (he now lives and teaches in Lithuania).
This a the useful overview article that I posted the other day.
He also collaborated with a number of other academics and historians to create the DefendingHistory website. Here's their archive on double genocide related stuff. There's some background links at the top, then papers by different authors, then related news articles etc.
Thanks a lot
No worries comrade. 
view more: next ›