What is the "midwest"?

any state i mistake for ohio when looking at a map of the US is part of the midwest

Real response to get some shit started:

Core Midwest: Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa

Upper Midwest: Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin

Outer Midwest: ND, SD, Nebraska (parts at least)

I will never recognize: Missouri

Everything else below Nebraska is "Plains" IMO.

South of the Ohio River is upper south.

Western PA and Pittsburgh can be "Midwest" if it wants, but the rest of PA isn't and the majority of the state doesn't qualify, so we'd have to balkanize.

Does the midwest only include the US? I'm wondering if Toronto counts as part of the midwest.

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all of it

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Ontologically, the Mid West is the polar opposite of the Middle East.

No further questions.

The "midwest" is more than a region. Maybe it is an idea, a world-historical landmass, light itself. North America is too small for it.

The Old Nothwest became known as the Midwest as the US expanded further westward. The heart of the Midwest is therefore Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minnesota. This is objective fact.

Iowa gets in on a corn and casserole-based technicality, but the Dakotas, Nebraska, and Kansas are wheat-growing plains states. Missouri is the south.

Any place where hot dogs have every single veggie in the food pyramid loaded on top.

The area East of Colorado, North of Kentucky, and West of Pennsylvania

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Idk because I'm not an USArian. Nyaaa

If I can't remember where a state is, or what its called, or forget to name it when naming all 50 states, thats a midwest state

Any US state without coastline, excluding New England.

Radical take:From the Eastern Rockies to the Western Applachians/Catskills/Adirondacks

DFW and everything north of it. Get mad at me now!

My thoughts, which is 100% right:

It's like the west, but overrated.

I'm not American but even I know that the midwest is The Real America™.

The former northwest territory and some adjacent regions.

Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan, Indiana, and Ohio. if you go west of that, it's Great Plains

Chicago, apparently

Slightly related: it annoys me that "the south" is a region in the USA. I'm fine with everything else, east coast, west coast, midwest whatever. But if I want to talk about the south, I can't say "southern America" because people will think I'm talking about the continent of South America. If i talk about a "southern American" then I have to clarify that I mean someone from Alabama.

Really the problem was calling a country the same thing as a continent. Shit just gets confusing. Call the south of the USA Dixie or something idc