I will never recognize: Missouri

Agreed Missouri doesn't count, (former) slave states can't be midwest

Ohio’s often an is or isn’t it inclusion in the Midwest for good reason. We’re kinda split between Appalachia, the Great Lakes/Northeast, the Midwest, and the South. And, with all that the Midwest is probably the dominant bit by landmass, but one of the weaker areas by population.

(Also an original mostly-lurker hexbearite, and probably primarily responsible for midwest.social starting to see our communities. 👋)

See this is the sort of shit I was hoping for

As a Midwest, I agree with this.

This but I think eastern Ohio is more the East than it is Midwest.

how can iowa be part of the core, but not wisconsin or michigan??

the core midwest are the great lakes states: wisconsin, michigan, illinois, minnesota. i’ll typically put indiana in there too

then, there’s the peripheral midwest, which i typically consider part of the midwest: iowa, ohio, nd, sd

finally, there’s the not-really-midwest: nebraska, western PA