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Brace Style (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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[-] [email protected] 257 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Mom, can we stop and get some Python?

No, we have Python at home.

Python at home....

[-] [email protected] 200 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

What if I prefer this?

#define CURLYOPENRIGHTCLOSEDLEFTBRACKET {
#define CURLYOPENLEFTCLOSEDRIGHTBRACKET }
#define CURVYOPENRIGHTCLOSEDLEFTBRACKET (
#define CURVYOPENLEFTCLOSEDRIGHTBRACKET )
#define PERIODWITHPERIODONTOP :
#define COMMAWITHPERIODONTOP ;

int main CURVYOPENRIGHTCLOSEDLEFTBRACKET CURVYOPENLEFTCLOSEDRIGHTBRACKET CURLYOPENRIGHTCLOSEDLEFTBRACKET
  if CURVYOPENRIGHTCLOSEDLEFTBRACKET 1 CURVYOPENLEFTCLOSEDRIGHTBRACKET CURLYOPENRIGHTCLOSEDLEFTBRACKET
    asm volatile CURVYOPENRIGHTCLOSEDLEFTBRACKET
      "mov $1, %%rax\n"
      "mov $1, %%rdi\n"
      "lea message(%%rip), %%rsi\n"
      "mov $4, %%edx\n"
      "syscall\n"
      PERIODWITHPERIODONTOP
      PERIODWITHPERIODONTOP
      PERIODWITHPERIODONTOP "%rax", "%rdi", "%rsi", "%rdx"
    CURVYOPENLEFTCLOSEDRIGHTBRACKET COMMAWITHPERIODONTOP
  CURLYOPENLEFTCLOSEDRIGHTBRACKET
  return 0 COMMAWITHPERIODONTOP
CURLYOPENLEFTCLOSEDRIGHTBRACKET

asm CURVYOPENRIGHTCLOSEDLEFTBRACKET ".section .data\n"
  "message: .ascii \"wut\\n\"\n"
  ".section .text\n" CURVYOPENLEFTCLOSEDRIGHTBRACKET COMMAWITHPERIODONTOP
[-] [email protected] 95 points 10 months ago

You can't be helped, sorry. We will put you to an asylum for people like you

[-] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago

Asylum? We have the electric chair for this.

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[-] [email protected] 49 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You win a free trip to the Hague

[-] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

They don't even deserve the trial. Straight to gulag.

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[-] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago

Can this be done with emoji?

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[-] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago

Acceptable, just FYI I added a pre-commit git hook, please rebase your changes.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

Thanks. I hate it.

[-] [email protected] 97 points 10 months ago

Idk why but i fell in love with this and might just use it now

[-] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago
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[-] [email protected] 82 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Looks like Python, but in an editor with a weird TUI scrollbar

[-] [email protected] 86 points 10 months ago

High chance that it's a Python programmer who is really unhappy about having to work in Java, lol

[-] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

Agreed. I saw this and thought it looked beautifully passive aggressive

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[-] [email protected] 77 points 10 months ago
[-] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago

Literally me every time I want to program something slightly complex in Python.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago
[-] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago

YAML makes you appreciate Python's 4 spaces indentation.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

I thought python allowed whatever indentation you wanted as long as it's consistent?

[-] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago

pep8 calls for 4 space but it is a guidance not a rule.

Google internal style guide recommend(ed?) 2 spaces to accomodate the line length limit.

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[-] [email protected] 75 points 10 months ago

Whitespace isn't semantically important. Ticket closed.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago

That would be a very satisfying ticket closure

[-] [email protected] 74 points 10 months ago

Python with extra steps

[-] [email protected] 61 points 10 months ago

Python programmer encountering a real programming language for the first time.

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[-] [email protected] 60 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Growing up with C made me assume semicolons and braces were needed to avoid subtle bugs, but experience with more recent languages showed me that it's possible to reliably parse the same semantic cues that humans use: indentation, parentheses, and other such context. (Perhaps this was less viable when C was invented, due to more constrained hardware.)

I was skeptical at first, but in practice, I have never encountered a bug caused by this approach in Python, Nim, or any other language implementing it consistently, over the course of a decade or two using them. Meanwhile, I have seen more than a few bugs caused by brace and semicolon mistakes.

So nowadays (outside of niche & domain-specific languages) I see braces and semicolons as little more than annoying noise and fuel for religious arguments.

[-] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago

In Java it’s quite difficult to forget semicolon and still have a syntactically correct program.

I think braces are incredibly important. With Python it can be confusing which indentation is correct when copying code between files. Different indentations can easily be still syntactically correct, but the outcome is vastly different. It’s often I have to double and triple check to verify I copied the code with correct indentation.

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[-] [email protected] 46 points 10 months ago

.... whitespace is whitespace.

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[-] [email protected] 46 points 10 months ago

I low key love it. It's unconventional, but it's not hard to read

[-] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago

it's not hard to read

Until there's missing brace somewhere

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[-] [email protected] 44 points 10 months ago

I was like, "where are the braces?". Then, I turned to the right

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[-] [email protected] 43 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This looks like a python programmer that is mad they have to write ~~C#~~ Java…

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[-] [email protected] 40 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

My credo on this kind of thing is never do something that will make your successor so mad that they find out where you live and post parts of your body to Interpol.

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[-] [email protected] 40 points 10 months ago

This should be its own language. Pyava.

[-] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago

Or Jathon (pronounced like Mike Tyson would pronounce JSON)

[-] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago

Or we can round out the confusion and call it PythonScript

[-] [email protected] 38 points 10 months ago

I kinda like it, easy to see unbalanced braces

[-] [email protected] 37 points 10 months ago

Last day at the company, pushed over 5,000 commits. Just style changes, still passes all the checks.

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[-] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago
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[-] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago

Pseudo-python

[-] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago

That would be very cool to have in a code autoformatter

[-] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago

Honestly, looks neat, might adopt this

[-] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago

bro what the fuck

[-] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago

Damn. That’s tidy to the point of inconvenience.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

I'm not a coder, and.... Well... Thanks, I hate it.

Even I know this is horrific. Where the fuck does this statement end? Which of these brackets refer to this section of other brackets. Idfk.

I could give a shit less if it was just for a single block per or something but ";}}}" hurts me.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

Well the code indentation explains that, like python. The issue is not reading it. You would rather quit your job than edit this.

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

Auto formatter as part of the expected language tooling is Go's greatest move, even if their formatter doesn't go far enough.

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

The braces need indentation, of course.

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I’m more concerned about that poor stack with all those recursions.

It’s also ~~O(n^2)~~ O(n!). I’m not sure what they’re trying to do, but I’m sure it can be done in O(n) (or at least polynomial).

Reject.

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