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[–] [email protected] 125 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Was a pretty good ~10 min speech too, on the House floor.

https://youtu.be/3KZy3NSqnkg

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Is there any chance this will ever pass?

I don’t really know what it would take to get this done

[–] [email protected] 88 points 3 months ago (2 children)

0%

Would require the GOP to no longer exist to get this done.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 months ago (2 children)

She could also try to convince Biden to have them assassinated, which would be totally legal.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

With the current SCOTUS, it's only an official act if a Republican does it.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm not advocating for it, but like, if they are dead they can't really speak up about their opinions. Again, not condoning murder, but just thinking through the logic on this.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (6 children)
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[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 months ago (3 children)

We'd need every Democrat and a few Republicans. Since these traitorous justices are what's giving Republicans power, it's pretty unlikely. Still worth trying.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago

Yeah, you push the issue and get people on record voting to defend blatant corruption. Then you can use it against them in the next election. House Reps run for office every two years. It's really frustrating to watch the Democrats abandon a cause because "it will never pass the House."

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

There's always a chance, it's just very small. These corrupt justices are the end game for the republican party, the odds of any of them breaking ranks to convict is very low.

That said, it's almost certainly not about conviction, so much as upholding the rule of law and creating political pressure and support for something like packing the court.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The motion will get assigned to a committee, run by Republicans, where it will die. Even if there is a sympathetic Republican on that committee, all House members are up for re-election in November, and voting for this is a sure way to get the MAGAs all up in their grill and would likely lead to that person losing a ton of MAGA support, and likely losing their job.

AOC knows this and is doing this to help Democrats in vulnerable districts, to help turn the House in the next Congress. "Elect us into the majority, and we will actually look into this."

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You are arguing that Republicans are, ”To busy keeping their job to do their job”. While that may be true in some cases, I fear that for some of them, breaking the Supreme Court like this was the goal all along.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

Would need at least some republican support, since they still hold the majority. So, not holding my breath, they tend to stick together.

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[–] [email protected] 104 points 3 months ago (11 children)

Don't follow much US politics because yous cunts shoehorn it into every fuckin thread about squirrels, dog food or whatever, but why is that lassie not your president? Instead of the two pish-reeking geriatric cunts you've got at the moment

[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 months ago (3 children)

She will not be the minimum age of 35 until next year and this is ineligible to run for the position till 2028

Also, we have a racism and sexism issue in this country so it would be an uphill battle.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 months ago (1 children)

She's 35 in October, she is eligible

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

She wasn't eligible last time around, which is why she couldn't be president now.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Soooo, there is a minimum age but not a maximum ?

Yet cognitive decline starts way earlier than people are willing to admit !

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago

I'm not even 40 yet, but my brain just glasses over reality and sees whatever it is used to seeing.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago (1 children)

why is that lassie not your president?

She needs to be about a century older, white, male, sell out to corporations, and shed her sense of ethics.

Then maybe, if the GOP is running enough of a Nazi.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I find somehow telling that US got a black president before it get (if it even go there) a woman president

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's pretty consistent. Black men got the right to vote long before women too. The US has more deep rooted misogyny than racism, and it's got plenty of racism.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

Blew my mind when I found out women couldn't have their own bank accounts in the United states until 1974.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago

Technically, she wasn't old enough to run until this year.

More practically, we have a center-right party and a fascist party in this country. The center-right party has a few actual leftists in it, but they tend not to gain much power.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

lassie not your president

lassie for president and larry the cat for prime minister 2024

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

A large chunk of the US is deeply sexist on top of other intellectual and moral failings.

This is aggravated by the right wing fighting against education, especially when it benefits the general public.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Because as president you serve 4-8 years and then become generally irrelevant. In congress you can serve for decades.

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I'm willing to bet that even if the two judges were removed tomorrow, the Democrats wouldn't add any judges because they'd want to "play fair" and not assign someone right before an election.

[–] [email protected] 85 points 3 months ago (4 children)

It was Mitch McConnell and the Republics that blocked Merrick Garland, not the Democrats.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That is true, but you also have to remember the Democrats BARELY put up a fight against their nonsense because they were SO certain they were going to win in 2016.

This "Put all our eggs in one basket, the people are too smart to fall for this" crap ALWAYS undoes the Democrats. Every single time.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They've been playing that game since Reagan, so yeah.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You also want that juicy carrot at the end of that stick during an election year. Ensure your voters are going to vote for you or else risking losing your whole democracy.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

Counter point - you get them installed so they can make meaningful decisions that help the people and then constantly remind the public:

We did that! We did that! We did that! Vote for us and there will be more of that.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

They would. But Democrats don't have a majority in the Senate, so confirmation won't happen. Manchin and Sinema are the necessary independents likely to refuse to confirm.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A politician, for the people? Strange.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

There's a handful.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 3 months ago (3 children)

And here’s the big fucking shocker. Guess who seated these two into their positions?

George Fucking Bush.

Republicans will still blame dems tho. Thanks to their lack of an educational system or ability to think critically or objectively for anyone that has anything to do with their party lines. Keep defunding that education and pushing the norm away from progress, tolerance, and respect for thy neighbor.

Sycophants.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Not the same Bush mind you…

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago

Trying to help. In the headline Thomas and Alito are mentioned. Thomas is from HW era and Alito was selected by W after Sandy gave W the election so she could retire under a republican. Two different Bushes. Cheers

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 months ago

Love to see it. AOC doing great work. To drive turnout, the November election should be about this issue: electoral and judicial reform. We can’t fix this country without it.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 months ago (1 children)

listen to her speech compared to, say, marjorie green, and how she approaches things passionately and logically with facts to back it up is night and day.

it's also a reminder of how marjorie greene is everything to the republicans that they tried to claim aoc would be to the democrats. instead, aoc has become one of the most passionate, analytical, and policy wonk driven politicians in congress.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I always thought it was hilarious how they'd complain that Democrats (especially coastal Democrats) are all "ivory tower elites", and then mock her for working as a bartender and imply that made her unfit for office.

Like, make up your mind, assholes.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

They don't use words to try to find or describe truth. They use words for effect. If saying (or believing) A gets what they want today, and Not-A gets it tomorrow, they will happily switch without any hesitation. Sometimes without any awareness.

We all are at risk of doing this. But the Republicans have it turned up to 11.

And because of that, on some fundamental level, they are bad people.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

Cognitive dissonance. The goal never was to be understood. Just to create chaos.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

She needs to force everyone involved to read the Pro Publica piece and call it an executive summary lol

Hell she should just get the people who worked on that piece to advise

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nothing like a good bit of public shaming for these corrupt judges.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

it will not go anywhere but good for her for doing it.

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