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[–] [email protected] 122 points 3 months ago (2 children)

She's right to be against the genocide, but claiming "this conflict is THOUSANDS of years old" doesn't make any sense. Zionism got its start in the late 19th century

[–] [email protected] 120 points 3 months ago

She's just a lib who is trying her best. You can tell because she thinks signing petitions is a meaningful action.

Settler colonialism isn't a topic they would normally oppose unless they see 100s of examples of children bleeding out.

Much easier for them to understand it as a holy war where one side went overboard than understanding Zionism as the modern incarnation of manifest destiny or lebensraum.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Someone in the bodybuilding community posting about politics dean-neutral

It's not about Jordan Peterson dean-smile

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago

Do you mean bro jogan?

[–] [email protected] 63 points 3 months ago (5 children)

"Vegan" Zionists are unfortunately not as uncommon as you'd think...

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I can't imagine the type of mindset it takes to think that Palestinians are less worthy of life then animals.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I notice that, believe it or not, sometimes veganism attracts the "facts and logic" kind of people who can come to somewhat of a principled, philosophical understanding as to why they should support veganism by thinking it out for a bit, but in that thought process, they forget that veganism is also fundamentally rooted in opposing oppression systemically. It's not a coincidence that radical animal liberation orgs tend to be explicitly leftist or even simply that leftism and veganism oftentimes go hand-in-hand.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

yeah veganism has a very wide amount of partakers, i've seen nazi vegans, and of course you lovely commie vegans, zionist vegans, anarcho capitalist vegans,

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

uh racism

its racism and loving your dog

thats uh liberal veganism

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 months ago

Liberal Zionists are, very often, the insufferable trendy kind that think they're smarter than everyone else because they have a subscription to the New York Crimes.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The first big-ish vegan YouTuber I stumbled across turned out to be misogynistic and transphobic. Like, way more than the average Westerner. It was kinda jarring after most of the vegans I'd met IRL, all but one of whom were lovely.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Calling for genocide based on diet is an actual thing. See any reddit comment thread about dog meat

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago

I was semi-active in some animal liberation circles and the amount of Zionists and "centrists" ("noo don't cut XYZ off, they are a good activist, can't we put politics aside???") is disgusting. But while it has its heart in the right place opposing animal commodification, vegan activism has always been thoroughly lib, so not exactly surprising.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How can you support Muslims when they celebrate eid al Adha angry-hex

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago (3 children)

You joke, but George Martin of an Instagram page titled "carnism_debunked" has effectively unironically made this argument:

[CW: Islamophobic "Vegan" Zionist Garbage]

if one is sabotaging Israeli activists and their activism due to Israeli attitudes and government actions, shouldn't the same be said of Palestine and the backward attitude of many Palestinians towards animals and human rights issues?

Jesus fucking Christ...

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago

We shouldn't support Palestine as vegans because Pakistan oppresses women

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We cannot allow Americans to hold signs advocating for an end to poverty while children are being shot in the head for going to school

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

We cannot allow Americans.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think I only knew she existed because of reddit-logo, and I forgot she existed because I logout-lemmy a year ago. If you’re not on the fediverse you’re dead to me.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you’re not on the fediverse you’re dead to me.

U dropped ur crown king gigachad

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago

king

hesitation-2

Sniff s-sic semper tyrannis

[–] [email protected] 59 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Vegan Gains

"Vegains" was right there

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 months ago

Look, interneting is hard, okay?

[–] [email protected] 58 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh wow writing to representatives. That's gonna do a lot.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 3 months ago

I mean, it can

Just depends on your writing implements the-doohickey

[–] [email protected] 54 points 3 months ago

Awh sweet, Patty is confirmed cool? Hell yeah

[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Damn, Leanbeefpatty on the right side of history. She's so cool and I'm gonna leave it at that before someone runs in with a bonkstick.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Bonk me, cowards! You only bonk a man.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Why am I not surprised vegan gains is an Israel apologists

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago

Zero surprise indeed, total sack of shit

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 months ago (2 children)

conflict is thousands of years old

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I thought he (vegan gains) was already a fascist? I'm so confused by internet drama

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Don't make the equivocation, man...

Fascist can be Zionists...

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago

True! My guess is this guy is not in good faith at all.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

the only reason i know about him is he did a debate about veganism with funny-clown-hammer and asked him if he was consistent and if in his stance that since there was no ethical consumption under capitalism he thought it was perfectly moral to consume child porn too and funny-clown-hammer said he thought that it definitely wasnt immoral which got clipped like a bazillion times

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

He's been a huge arsehole for over a decade, no idea about his politics though

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I had vague memories of him being bad

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago

yeah me too... I can't remember what it was, but i was getting the yuck from him way before i was into politics and knew more about stuff. That the is so fuzzy, it feels like it was 10 years ago

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Haven't heard of him in a decade? I remember he admitted to being a sociopath

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

hmm. was not aware of her.

she looks like Liv from QAA whos also pretty stronk

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago

oh god she could crush zionism just by flexing

mommy sorry mommy sorry mommy sorry mommy sorry

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

Shh, don’t let the Herzlians know about HaΚ»avara.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

"You support oppressed peoples = antisemite"

Quite a leap to arrive at that conclusion.

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