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[–] [email protected] 127 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Pretty sure Loki was the mother of Odin's horse.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago

And you are correct!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago

Classic Loki.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He also got Thor to dress as Freya to pretend to marry a giant king

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

I personally don't see that is one of those trans Loki moments, because I'm cis, love joking, and identify with Loki in the tale.

If I were in that situation, I would 1000% find it hilarious to convince my best bro the only way to get their most prized possession back is to crossdress and trick a King.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

And the father of Fenrir and Jormungandr!

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

I'd avoid mentioning it unless you want the ire of the Trickster God.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They’d kidnap and enslave them just like everyone else; true egalitarians!

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Close to 100% viking here, you're welcome! I might enslave you though, but without prejudice.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I feel like you don't know what a viking is.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Nice try viking. By viking law you can only keep what you kill and a dead slave is worthless, therefore taking a corpse as a slave has no standing. You will just have to settle for the plunder and be on your way.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You forgot the most important Viking law: Ron Swanson saying "Not to worry, I have a permission" and handing a paper that says "I can do what I want" signed by Ron himself

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

I, for one, welcome our new, tolerant, Viking overlords.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm 90% sure vikings would have been more than a little excited by the idea.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago

I'm sure a whole lot of people where fine with it until the christofasciast colonisers and occupiers had their way

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Loki turned into a mare to get properly fucked by a stallion, get pregnant and deliver an 8 legged super horse (Sleipnir) that Odin proudly rode around... yeah, they are very fine with gender fluidity

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I mean, Loki was ultimately a villain, so it's more like they perfected the queer-coded villain archetype, but there's also evidence both that Shieldmaidens were a thing and some Shieldbrethen were assigned-as-Shieldmaidens-at-birth. How accepted that would have really been we simply do not know, or how much norms changed by region and time. Or even whether they would have thought you were stupid for asking if ladies could fight in "men's clothing," aka, armor.

There is also quite a lot of difference between a Dane, a Kievan Rus, and a citizen of what was basically a republic in Iceland in 930 AD.

Pretending the Vikings/Norse/Whatever were some pinnacle of ancient tolerance is just as wrong as pretending they followed practices that map 1-to-1 on modern bigotry. They were an immensely patriarchal culture, whose economy was quite literally based on chattel slavery on a scale that would only be matched by American plantatioms, with a whole slew of what can only be called toxic masculinity, who only could ever look good in comparison to Roman and Abrahamic norms, but that's the comparison Westerners will inevitably make in their favor because that is the standard they know.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

Doesn't Loki being a villain vary from myth to myth? In some he's just mischievous, in others outright malicious. The Ragnarok myth has him leading the armies of the dead, but I've always wondered how modified the story is due to the influence of Christian monks...

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago

Viking: Can you fight?

Trans Viking: yeah!

Viking: cool, let's go fuck some shit up!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago

Read more norse mythology for smart people at

https://norse-mythology.org/gods-and-creatures/the-aesir-gods-and-goddesses/odin/

He’s a war-god, but also a poetry-god, and he has prominent “effeminate” qualities that would have brought unspeakable shame to any historical Viking warrior.

cal tradition known as seidr, of which Odin and Freya are the foremost divine practitioners. In traditional Germanic society, for a man to engage in seidr was effectively to forsake the male gender role, which brought considerable scorn upon any male who chose to take up this path. As the sagas show, this didn’t stop some men from practicing seidr anyway. However, even Odin wasn’t exempt from such charges of “unmanliness,” and was taunted for adopting the feminine traits and tasks that form part of the backbone of seidr. Saxo, in the passage on Odin’s exile alluded to above, relates that “by his stage-tricks and his assumption of a woman’s work he had brought the foulest scandal on the name of the gods.”[16] Note also the reference to being “fertilized” in the verse quoted above – while this is certainly a metaphor, it’s a metaphor loaded with sexual implications that would have been immediately recognizable to any Viking Age or medieval reader or hearer of the poem. A fuller discussion of the relationship between Germanic shamanism and gender roles can be found here: https://norse-mythology.org/concepts/shamanism/

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Canonically accurate.

Edit: Huh, you're going to have to open the image in a new tab to actually read the comic.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 weeks ago

A lot of alt right dickheads use viking insignia and culture to their advantage in dogwistling and such, which sucks and I'm assuming what is being referenced.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Vikings also fucked their friend's wife when he died. Also were supporters of slavery and have abused their slaves. Am failing to see the point?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

She's probably taking on those hyper masculine white nationalists obsessed with their viking ancestors, not on vikings to be cool again.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

Are there any supporters of slavery that haven't abused their slaves? It seems to be part of the whole deal.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

I'm pretty sure modern day viking descendants are ok with them.

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