yea the user interface sucks. have friends who swear up and down it's the most intuitive interface and i just don't get it.

The only reason I can fathom why most non-tech people like Apple is because 1) MS sucks worse in many ways 2) they have internalized the marketing hype, aesthetics and logic of $$$ means better

I've been forced to use an iphone and mac for work about 6 months ago, and the mac is mostly just annoying at times, while the iphone is really much more annoying generally. Both of them make doing a lot of common daily things like connect bluetooth device take 2x as many clicks/taps than they need to be.

Overpriced. Status symbols. Not even better for security, that's just a marketing thing and some nerds got caught up in it. The code is closed you literally can't tell how secure it really is and they can create whatever backdoors they want.

Android also has issues but you can at least load aftermarket ROMs to take more control over the device and security yourself.

Do people outside the west even use them?

Not many, they're very much products for the bourgeoisie

There was a window of time where it was super easy to jailbreak iPhones - and there were tons of cool customization options, plus you could easily pirate apps and get in-app purchases for free. That was neat. That was the only period in which I owned an iPhone and felt okay with it. I've heard jailbreaking is a lot more difficult these days but I don't really know because I switched to Android.

I am also on the Apple hate train mostly because I used to repair iphones for a living. I think Apple was pretty cool in the 90s with their iMac line and with the iPod but I think the release of the iPhone is the turning point for Apple. I never owned an iPhone and I think the original reason was because I saw most iPhone users as pretentious. To be honest though. IPhone work and a lot of people like them so I don't really care what phone anyone uses because it isn't important and nobody cares.

Funny anecdote my aunt who is a massive apple fan was also in a literal cult, technically still a member but the leader died a few decades ago and they're more of a weird lib theatre company now

More and more people are saying this

“I hate the way that you walk. I hate the way that you talk.”

-Me to my glorified walkie talkie

Been saying it for years and people ridiculed me for being broke cause I fw android...like how you gonna spend more money on something worse and then think that's not a self own

one of us

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Mac OS are unironically so much better than windows. My Macbook with 8 GB RAM and a 4 year old processor runs better than my work laptop with 16gb ram and a 2 year old processor running Windows.

I have a Kali VM on both machines and the Macbook runs it smoother when I dedicate 2gb to the VM than the windows version with 6gb dedicated to the VM.

I just wish I could run Fedora or something on my work laptop.

I often find iOS UI/UX choices confusing and sometimes contradictory, eg what I need to know to swipe left/right or long press versus what it just doesn't support. Just the amount of stuff hidden away from the end user, like saving files and having a file system, put me off it early on and I think it's still mostly like that.

THe only reason why I'm using an Iphone is because it was given to me by a family member who keeps getting the newest version. I hate it, simple file transfers is a pain in the ass. If I were to actually buy a phone, I would definitely get an android.

I can't stand them either. My partner recently got one of the newer iPhones for free. Obviously we've moved her over to it as it's far nicer than her last one, which was on the way out. Problem is that she hates using it and I hate maintaining it. Doing something as simple as extracting a game save so I can edit it was like pulling teeth.

Thinking of selling it and just getting a new android for her instead.

Apple is like a marginal improvement over windows but I still hated using their computers. Thinkpad + linux always and forever

I am here to let you know you are wrong and I think worse of you because of it

Apple = bad
Microsoft = bad

Linux = good

I like my macbook because it's sturdy and has long battery life, also MacOS isn't completely terrible, it's unixy and customizable enough, although I do prefer Linux. I don't know any other laptop manufacturer with a similar build quality, almost all laptops post 2012 or so had garbage build quality and/or shitty battery life, I'm all ears for suggestions tho.

I hate that you have to pay out the ass for the thing tho, I'm gonna be pretty pissed if it craps out before the 5 year mark.

I admittedly just switched over to Apple products early last year for a variety of reasons. Most of those reasons dealt with some QoL things that I could use in my own personal ecosystem, such as FaceTime, quality of screen, and it's not Samsung. Samsung does some shady shit that you're not aware of until you dig into why something isn't working as it should.

You will never catch me on a Mac though. That shit is so fucking overpriced that I'd rather just burn the money for warmth. Besides, I refuse to run any OS that isn't some flavor of Linux at this point in my life. I don't think I've booted into Windows in probably 3 years at this point.

Android sucks too, it just depends what flavour of suck you prefer.

I switched to Android recently and have to say I prefer iOS Little things like the spell checker is better, space bar scroll is smoother, apple pay integration is a little more seamless and generally the iOS apps tend to feel a bit more polished. Battery life is also way better.

OTOH I now have stremio on my phone which outweighs all that other shit.

Why would you use something for 10 and 5 years if you don’t like them?

Why do people feel the need to express all the stuff they dislike? I wouldn’t dream of making a post saving anime sucks, as it probably doesn’t suck to many people. It’s just not for me. I prefer to spend my time talking about my likes than focusing on my dislikes.