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[–] [email protected] 132 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If you didn't want to get arrested by the ICC maybe you shouldn't have committed so many fucking crimes you assholes.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

He’s just trying to complete that Geneva checklist… /sarcasm

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

Geneva convention genocide ending speed run

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Knew what this was before I even opened it. God, what a movie

[–] [email protected] 88 points 6 months ago

Issue them, ICC.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 6 months ago

Oh so Israel knows Netanyahu is committing war crimes.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Neither Israel nor the United States recognize the court's jurisdiction, though any warrants would put Israeli officials at risk of arrest in other countries, including much of Europe.

That’s a good look for USA. /s

Once again, we are shamefully shamed by our leaders.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It gets better: check out The Hague Invasion Act.

Long story short congress has given blanket authority to any US president to rescue any American or allied personnel from ICC imprisonment by any means necessary.

Netanyahu could qualify as allied personnel.

The US could invade the Netherlands to free Netanyahu from the ICC without any sort of debate.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

Countries with good intentions don’t shield themselves from accountability.

America is a terrorist state.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

And NATO would be obligated to defend it, if the Netherlands asks for aid. Could get interesting.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The story behind it is that Clinton supported it, but it was very close to the end of his term and decided that the next Administration should take it up. Gore 100% would have gone ahead with it. We didn't get Gore.

IMO, there are other fundamental issues with the ICC, and they won't all be fixed by the US signing on. That said, by all means, charge Netanyahu. He deserves it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

It's been this way for decades. Some insecure people can't imagine how the US could ever form part of the international community and instead want to be able to get away with everything all the time.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Is it because they're criminals? Do you think?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

What? No. This is a perfectly normal and rational fear. I even keep a can of ICC-Away in my kitchen.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

If that were the case with the ICC there's also a huge list of people they should have arrested by now

[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 months ago

Bibi sowing: Haha fuck yeah!!! Yes!!

Bibi reaping: Well this fucking sucks. What the fuck.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago

Oh no! Maybe they should stop executing noncombtants and aid workers.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Bibi deserves much, much worse than a cell in the Hague.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

Panic! In the Hague

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

A moose in The Hague....

May your imagination run wild!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago

I can only hope they get the Nuremberg treatment.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It’s conflicting. I would like to see immediate lethal punishment but also want him to suffer in jail

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ideally I’d like him to rot in jail, and witness better leaders unfuck what he’s done to Israel and the region over the years. Forced to witness his ‘legacy’ dismissed as wrong and torn down.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

"Hahaha nooo don't make me find out after fucking around haha lol"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Like I get that 80 years ago something horrible happened, but these guys just keep on and on about how bad t is the only Jewish state in the world.

Why does that matter? Why is protecting an ethnostate so important?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think the biggest factor is, even though we're talking about Jewish people, its also in christian dogma that jewish people inherit that land. So after ww2 when largely christian nations were restructuring the area, they made sure the jews get their holy land. At the expense of palestinians that werent even involved in the war.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

And they could also get Jews out of Europe by giving them the promised land. Very convenient.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Because the Holocaust happened and although Jewish people weren't the only demographic to be murdered by nazis, they did face the brunt of it. Add to that a 2000 yr diaspora and you can see why they would like a homeland.

The problem is Palestinian people lived on that land for 2000 years so they have a right to it as well.

Imo the best thing to do is divide Israel in half and give Jewish and Palestinian equal portions. But we're a long way from that happening, if ever.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They are hardly the only diaspora that's been through traumatic events. Ethnostates always end up this way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And we shouldn't be forcing anyone out to make new ethnostates. It's the worst form of colonialism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Where did I say force anyone out?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

The thing I've seen bandied about is a UN-administrated state combining both territories, policed by UN forces until a proper bipartisan government consisting of Israelis AND Palestinians is elected, ready, and able to take control - and even then subject to "hey we'll come back if things get bad again".

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

Lock him up!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So... who is going to be marching into Israel to make the arrest?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's not how it works. If a warrant is issued then any country that is a signatory is obligated to arrest him if he sets foot in their territory.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ah gotcha so he just never leaves Israel or no one ever acts on the arrest warrant.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

The ICC issuing an arrest warrant would also erode the legitimacy of the administration internationally. A head of state that can’t visit other heads of states tends to become a lame duck, especially when they’re not an autocrat.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Israeli officials are coveted by the Hague invasion act, so this could get fun. I say still try and make Biden show his whole ass

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