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[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (4 children)

This is part of a comment I've made to @[email protected] who was been dunked on severely in this thread already (rightly so, their attitude didn't help) and I feel like I need to make it a separate comment for visibility.

Now to address the Hexbaristas; I'm really fucking dissappointed. You guys need some fucking in your life, and I know I know, this is the fucking internet and shits not to be taken overly seriously, but I like to make these fucking posts for practice damn it! You should do that too from time to time as being good at educating others is a skill and you NEED (ZERO FUCKING EXCUSES) to hone it. You can use this site for more than just dunking.

— “As revolutionaries, we don't have the right to say we are tired of explaining. We must never stop explaining. We know that when the people understand, they cannot help but follow us.”

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I initially agreed with you on principle, but after viewing the facts in this particular case I think this person was educated with about as much patience as they deserve and exactly as much mockery as they require.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah I no longer think this case is salvageable either

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I still think you did an absolutely commendable job

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

Thanks, it's nice to see comments like these

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

Spare the rod and spoil the child can have two interpretations; One is that the parent is a shepherd and uses their crook, their rod, to protect the sheep from predators, gently goad them to a safe path, and sometimes drag the stupid water-logged fuckers out of a pond because they're really not very bright and will kill themselves if no one is watching them. The other interpretation is that zen "And then the master thapped him in the head with a stick and he was enlightened" thing.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago

We had a whole struggle session over this. It's honestly presumptuous and arrogant of you to spit this shit out, as if it hasn't been something that has been discussed heavily by the site. The moderation policy of tone on this site has been up for debate several times, quite recently with federation.

You yourself encourage another user to meet others with questions and curiosity, but then turn right around on this concept when it is you who encounter something you disagree with. Instead of assuming people here are uneducated on this line of thought, ask why it is that this is how users on hexbear chose to interact with smug libs.

To assume that we ourselves haven't had a discussion on "oh but shouldn't we be nice and welcoming and explain shit" is honestly quite rude, and it doesn't get better when you try to berate instead of engage in dialogue on the subject. Do better yourself.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nah, dipshits like rottingleaf should get nothing but dunks.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Yeah the more comments of theirs I read the more I think they actually do, welp at least I tried and got some writing practice from it

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago

Eh, nothing wrong with combined-arms posting.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think you did good! I apologize for the tone in my response to your initial post - I believe the content of my response, but the phrasing should not be so hostile.
Dunks are good and important, but so is the patient guidance. Not so much for the individual you're responding to, but for the audience we talked about before. Having both is a great aid.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Ah you don't need to apologize, what I posted was in good intentions but mostly an L. Myself I don't really care for tone and on the tone policing struggle session I remember being on the side of being against it too. And now I think a duo of approaches in an online forum setting with a bigger emphasis on the crowd might just be the better approach. Because I thought of me becoming a commie through GenZedong and well, I was mostly a lurker, part of the crowd. Still I'll keep to my more considerate approach.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

diversity of tactics, comrade. I'm sure others got something out of your replies.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Well, my inbox has grown +35 today, and these are only those I've been too lazy to answer, so yeah, my attitude is not friendly.

Especially since the whole thing started with mentioning that I'm kinda libertarian as a source for a statement about libertarians, and not challenging something I wasn't interested in challenging.

And if it helps, you are right, if they'd be at least as willing to test and doubt their ideology as, say, ansyns often are, it'd be in a better condition.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (2 children)

And if it helps, you are right, if they’d be at least as willing to test and doubt their ideology

We are doing that constantly, you are trying to shake parts which already have been set in stone for quite a while and as such this is why you aren't treated very seriously. You lack knowledge in aspects many of us already posses and are trying to school us on them, this is backwards. If you'd like to shake these foundations you'd need to find some kind of really strong drill.

Well, my inbox has grown +35 today, and these are only those I’ve been too lazy to answer, so yeah, my attitude is not friendly.

Eh understandable, but you don't have to even respond to everyone or continue the cycle of being perpetually mad. You've got no else to blame getting into this predicament but yourself.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

"The only thing the Soviets did wrong is give Ayn Rand an education" - I don't remember.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ah, that's different. Just a habit of reacting at events. I'm not mad, just bored to death and irritated by that.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not mad

-A guy who is definitely mad

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Mad in the sense of "being crazy" maybe, but not in the sense of "being very angry".

Just a habit of reacting at events.

I meant that.

Also the more anxiety some other occupation causes, the more I retreat to shit throwing contests here.

That's my reason. What's yours?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That's my reason. What's yours?

I'm hungover and it's fun to shit on you

I meant that.

So your habit is to get mad and cry about it? Lmao that's sad

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And if it helps, you are right, if they'd be at least as willing to test and doubt their ideology as, say, ansyns often are, it'd be in a better condition.

buddy, people here are constantly investigating their own ideology and beliefs. You're just not saying anything that warrants introspection, because you're not saying anything novel or of value.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think I've managed to slip in a few between answering shit thrown at me with shit thrown back. But it's in your own interest to search for such things, not in mine.

I also think that this

because you’re not saying anything novel or of value

doesn't gain weight because you type it. Only for people respecting you in some way, but for me you are a bunch of letters on a website.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I think I've managed to slip in a few between answering shit thrown at me with shit thrown back

Oh no, I'm so sorry to hear that people have been mean to you! Do you need someone to kiss your boo boos? If you need a time-out it's completely fine.

Only for people respecting you in some way, but for me you are a bunch of letters on a website.

For a guy who doesn't care, you sure do care a lot about how people treat you.
You've now gone from "oh yeah I totally wouldn't have been a shithead if people had been nicer" to "whatever, I'm just a shithead because you don't matter to me and I don't even care!" So which is it? Do you not care, or does it hurt your feelings that people treat you like the dumbfuck that you are?