1."Federal agencies have the authority to intervene in protests, picket signs, or blockades. The law is impartial: it must be enforced without exception."
2."Federal forces are not required to have judicial oversight for their actions."
3."Forces are not obligated to consider alternative entrances or pathways. If the main path is blocked, their duty is to clear it."
4."This action continues until the flow of traffic is fully restored."
5."To carry out these acts, forces will use the minimum necessary force, which is sufficient and proportional to the situation they are addressing."
6."Instigators and organizers of the protest will be identified."
7."Vehicles used in the protest will be identified and subjected to citations or penalties."
8."Data of the instigators, accomplices, participants, and organizers will be transmitted to the authorities through appropriate channels."
9."Notices will be sent to the judge in cases of damage, such as burning flags."
10."In cases involving minors, relevant authorities will be notified, and the guardians of these youths who bring them to these demonstrations will face sanctions and punishment."
11."The costs incurred by security operations will be borne by the responsible organizations or individuals. In cases involving foreigners with provisional residency, information will be forwarded to the National Directorate of Immigration."
12."A registry will be created for organizations that participate in these types of actions."
This is part of a comment I've made to @[email protected] who was been dunked on severely in this thread already (rightly so, their attitude didn't help) and I feel like I need to make it a separate comment for visibility.
Now to address the Hexbaristas; I'm really fucking dissappointed. You guys need some fucking in your life, and I know I know, this is the fucking internet and shits not to be taken overly seriously, but I like to make these fucking posts for practice damn it! You should do that too from time to time as being good at educating others is a skill and you NEED (ZERO FUCKING EXCUSES) to hone it. You can use this site for more than just dunking.
— “As revolutionaries, we don't have the right to say we are tired of explaining. We must never stop explaining. We know that when the people understand, they cannot help but follow us.”
I initially agreed with you on principle, but after viewing the facts in this particular case I think this person was educated with about as much patience as they deserve and exactly as much mockery as they require.
Yeah I no longer think this case is salvageable either
I still think you did an absolutely commendable job
Thanks, it's nice to see comments like these
Spare the rod and spoil the child can have two interpretations; One is that the parent is a shepherd and uses their crook, their rod, to protect the sheep from predators, gently goad them to a safe path, and sometimes drag the stupid water-logged fuckers out of a pond because they're really not very bright and will kill themselves if no one is watching them. The other interpretation is that zen "And then the master thapped him in the head with a stick and he was enlightened" thing.
We had a whole struggle session over this. It's honestly presumptuous and arrogant of you to spit this shit out, as if it hasn't been something that has been discussed heavily by the site. The moderation policy of tone on this site has been up for debate several times, quite recently with federation.
You yourself encourage another user to meet others with questions and curiosity, but then turn right around on this concept when it is you who encounter something you disagree with. Instead of assuming people here are uneducated on this line of thought, ask why it is that this is how users on hexbear chose to interact with smug libs.
To assume that we ourselves haven't had a discussion on "oh but shouldn't we be nice and welcoming and explain shit" is honestly quite rude, and it doesn't get better when you try to berate instead of engage in dialogue on the subject. Do better yourself.
Nah, dipshits like rottingleaf should get nothing but dunks.
Yeah the more comments of theirs I read the more I think they actually do, welp at least I tried and got some writing practice from it
Eh, nothing wrong with combined-arms posting.
I think you did good! I apologize for the tone in my response to your initial post - I believe the content of my response, but the phrasing should not be so hostile.
Dunks are good and important, but so is the patient guidance. Not so much for the individual you're responding to, but for the audience we talked about before. Having both is a great aid.
Ah you don't need to apologize, what I posted was in good intentions but mostly an L. Myself I don't really care for tone and on the tone policing struggle session I remember being on the side of being against it too. And now I think a duo of approaches in an online forum setting with a bigger emphasis on the crowd might just be the better approach. Because I thought of me becoming a commie through GenZedong and well, I was mostly a lurker, part of the crowd. Still I'll keep to my more considerate approach.
diversity of tactics, comrade. I'm sure others got something out of your replies.
Well, my inbox has grown +35 today, and these are only those I've been too lazy to answer, so yeah, my attitude is not friendly.
Especially since the whole thing started with mentioning that I'm kinda libertarian as a source for a statement about libertarians, and not challenging something I wasn't interested in challenging.
And if it helps, you are right, if they'd be at least as willing to test and doubt their ideology as, say, ansyns often are, it'd be in a better condition.
We are doing that constantly, you are trying to shake parts which already have been set in stone for quite a while and as such this is why you aren't treated very seriously. You lack knowledge in aspects many of us already posses and are trying to school us on them, this is backwards. If you'd like to shake these foundations you'd need to find some kind of really strong drill.
Eh understandable, but you don't have to even respond to everyone or continue the cycle of being perpetually mad. You've got no else to blame getting into this predicament but yourself.
"The only thing the Soviets did wrong is give Ayn Rand an education" - I don't remember.
Ah, that's different. Just a habit of reacting at events. I'm not mad, just bored to death and irritated by that.
-A guy who is definitely mad
Mad in the sense of "being crazy" maybe, but not in the sense of "being very angry".
I meant that.
Also the more anxiety some other occupation causes, the more I retreat to shit throwing contests here.
That's my reason. What's yours?
I'm hungover and it's fun to shit on you
So your habit is to get mad and cry about it? Lmao that's sad
buddy, people here are constantly investigating their own ideology and beliefs. You're just not saying anything that warrants introspection, because you're not saying anything novel or of value.
I think I've managed to slip in a few between answering shit thrown at me with shit thrown back. But it's in your own interest to search for such things, not in mine.
I also think that this
doesn't gain weight because you type it. Only for people respecting you in some way, but for me you are a bunch of letters on a website.
Oh no, I'm so sorry to hear that people have been mean to you! Do you need someone to kiss your boo boos? If you need a time-out it's completely fine.
For a guy who doesn't care, you sure do care a lot about how people treat you.
You've now gone from "oh yeah I totally wouldn't have been a shithead if people had been nicer" to "whatever, I'm just a shithead because you don't matter to me and I don't even care!" So which is it? Do you not care, or does it hurt your feelings that people treat you like the dumbfuck that you are?