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if your name includes "von der": either EU bueraucrat ghoul, german aristocrat ghoul or afrikaaner ghoul. opinion discarded
So 2/3.
Edit:
I wonder what those factories were used for during World War II
lmao it gets worse.
"I need a pseudonym, what should I go with? I know, the family name of my slaver ancestors!"
Hmm, why did she move to London and take a pseudonym to escape a far-left militant group? You'd only do something like that if you or your family were being specifically targeted, right?
Interesting trivia.
And it gets even worse, though indirectly.
A far left militant group specifically dedicated to hunting down and kill Nazis.
I just wanted to say I appreciate the effort what went into this post.
Thanks for this. Would have never been able to do this sleuthing myself.
Excellent work gumshoe
von der scheiße
hahahhaha holy fuck
Great work!
"What was (person) up to/talking about during WW2" is always the wildest rabbit hole.
For example the creator of Tin tin, or Henry Ford receiving a....German award in 1938.
it means you are an aristocrat in either germany or Holland
Holland was the first bourgeois state, nobility wasn't much of an influence on its institutions. In dutch van (der) usually refers to small villages their family presumably came from at some point.
Von Der is not Afrikaans, but Van Der is.
Also, Apartheid ended 30 years ago and was the politicians' doing, not the citizens'. South Africa wasn't a democracy, remember?
I think it's fair to say that at least 90% of white South Africans agree that Apartheid was a bad thing.
In much the same way 90% of Germans suddenly had very negative opinions about Nazism in 1945.
I wish. In my personal experience it's simply not true beyond a surface level "apartheid bad". Any deeper conversation or questioning reveals the truth.
do you know any good history books about apartheid SA? I embarrassingly don't know much about it myself
I learnt most of it at school, but Max Coleman's analysis of apartheid as a crime against humanity should be a good book explaining just how horrific it was. I think it's available for free here. The same website has lots of good articles too, including a basic summary of what apartheid was .
https://www.sahistory.org.za/archive/crime-against-humanity-analysing-repression-apartheid-state-edited-max-coleman
This summary, and the content in the "articles" section at the bottom of the page, is also pretty good.
https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/history-apartheid-south-africa
going to check this out, thanks. I think it's literally not even covered in US schools, I don't remember ever learning about it.
Wow they don't cover it at all? Here in South Africa, we even learn about MLK Jr and Malcolm X, the Vietnam war and cold war in general in history. And of course we learn about our own country.
I've been out of school for a long time so I could be remembering wrong, but I don't remember ever learning about it. everything I do know is from what I've read/watched/heard and it's all very cursory. I mean, we barely even learn about slavery in our own country, so I guess it makes sense.
Yeah I guess so. Part of the US propaganda.
Beneficiaries of Apartheid saying it was bad now that it is over means very little. Ghouls like the Musks still run roughshod over the world with the spoils they took and still exploit minorities wherever it benefits them.
All those unfortunate H1B visa people that have to put up with his shit. Fuckin bleak.
We don't like to be associated with the muskrat
I tried googling for this but I'm finding that while the elected government was extremely oppressive, it still held elections.